Message from @Deleted User

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2017-05-29 06:00:05 UTC  

Maybe in Ancapistan but that's not what we're talking about.

2017-05-29 06:00:33 UTC  

What are we talking about? Where would you like to move the goal posts?

2017-05-29 06:01:04 UTC  

I want a Fascist state, not a society driven soley by profits.

2017-05-29 06:01:23 UTC  

If my profile didn't clue you in.

2017-05-29 06:01:35 UTC  

Good, I was a Fascist. I can ask you some good questions.

2017-05-29 06:01:40 UTC  

fine

2017-05-29 06:01:54 UTC  

What does Fascism do once it defeats all its enemies?

2017-05-29 06:02:46 UTC  

Establish an authoritarian state that uses its power to serve only the best interests of the people.

2017-05-29 06:03:31 UTC  

What is the best interests of the people in a Total Global Fascist Empire?

2017-05-29 06:04:54 UTC  

There probably wouldn't be a global Fascist Empire, so to speak. Rather the Fascist nations would serve their own people, but could still have reasonable interactions with other forms of states. Like Germany and Finland for example.

2017-05-29 06:05:03 UTC  

At least that's my thoughts

2017-05-29 06:05:45 UTC  

Interesting. So what should happen if one Fascist State becomes warlike and expands into other territories? Or is so advanced that no one can resist them?

2017-05-29 06:06:18 UTC  

Motivations for war are not exclusive to the state being Fascist and it may or may not be justified.

2017-05-29 06:06:38 UTC  

I know. But you have no answer.

2017-05-29 06:06:55 UTC  

There would be a war, what else is there to say?

2017-05-29 06:07:09 UTC  

Fascism is perpetual war.

2017-05-29 06:07:21 UTC  

Its not like communist countries haven't done that exact same thing.

2017-05-29 06:07:23 UTC  

There is no end game for the globe.

2017-05-29 06:07:35 UTC  

So? Why should there be?

2017-05-29 06:07:55 UTC  

To advance humanity higher and further than petty squabbles on the Earth.

2017-05-29 06:08:16 UTC  

That could still occur.

2017-05-29 06:08:30 UTC  

Its just not a huge driving factor

2017-05-29 06:09:30 UTC  

The first motivator of Fascism is security and defeat of its enemies. This is its fuel. Either Fascist states fight forever or one becomes so powerful it takes over the globe. But then there is no more fuel, and infighting will emerge.

2017-05-29 06:10:28 UTC  

If you goal is not advancement of humanity, your ideology is troglodyte.

2017-05-29 06:10:44 UTC  

In a stable and prosperous society like what Germany and Italy would have been had they not been defeated, I'd have to say that's hard to imagine.

2017-05-29 06:11:20 UTC  

So your answer to difficult scenarios is "it's hard to imagine". I thought so. Fascism is child's play.

2017-05-29 06:11:54 UTC  

Because it didn't really happen without the effects of the most massive war in Human history.

2017-05-29 06:12:27 UTC  

So where are the Fascist theories that project into the future and make predictions?

2017-05-29 06:12:33 UTC  

Like Marx did.

2017-05-29 06:13:27 UTC  

Why would they need to? Fascism is about nations striving to secure themselves and solve their problems here and now, not to predict the future.

2017-05-29 06:13:47 UTC  

That's why it is inferior.

2017-05-29 06:13:52 UTC  

Why?

2017-05-29 06:14:09 UTC  

There is no end game strategy, like in Chess.

2017-05-29 06:14:34 UTC  

Worrying about the far future and ignoring pressing issues seems inferior to me.

2017-05-29 06:15:14 UTC  

Who said worrying about just the far future? A rigorous theory should be able to project into all scenarios with confidence.

2017-05-29 06:15:53 UTC  

Marxist-Leninism does the present and the future together.

2017-05-29 06:16:14 UTC  

It does not need to be a one-size-fits-all ideology people can change the tennants of their government as neccesary to accomplish whay they need to.

2017-05-29 06:17:27 UTC  

Folly. In other words you have no idea. You answer it 'we'll work it out as we go'. Well, a more organised and planned system will defeat that.

2017-05-29 06:17:42 UTC  

Adaptation is always better.

2017-05-29 06:17:56 UTC  

Of course.

2017-05-29 06:18:18 UTC  

What is it about Marxist-Leninism that will make it work in all scenarios?