Message from @Deleted User

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2017-06-10 07:25:16 UTC  

No need. Explanation is not necessary.

2017-06-10 07:25:33 UTC  

Objectively? No.

2017-06-10 07:25:48 UTC  

Are you completely objective?

2017-06-10 07:25:54 UTC  

Nope.

2017-06-10 07:26:16 UTC  

Then you might want some explanations due to your subjectivity.

2017-06-10 07:26:30 UTC  

Would you call that a need?

2017-06-10 07:27:34 UTC  

I would call it a timely matter. Subject there is and than there is no.

2017-06-10 07:27:50 UTC  

And with it the need for explanations is gone.

2017-06-10 07:30:25 UTC  

The need to have an active force, a mover with superpowers is a need to have a secured childhood. The child feels good and grows well.

2017-06-10 07:30:40 UTC  

It is natural to need it.

2017-06-10 07:31:02 UTC  

Nothing offensive in it.

2017-06-10 07:31:24 UTC  

Good reflexes.

2017-06-10 07:33:02 UTC  

So sometimes there is a need for explanation, when the subject calls upon it.

2017-06-10 07:33:53 UTC  

No objective need. But subjective, yes. With explanations child works better. Brain develops. Very healthy and favorable for evolution.

2017-06-10 07:34:47 UTC  

I agree with that.

2017-06-10 07:37:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323002845056204800/aBWd3qP_460s.jpg

2017-06-10 07:38:04 UTC  

So then here we are, at the intersection of explanations. I repeat the question, if the universe, and the things in it doesn't need to exist, why does it exist when it could have failed?

2017-06-10 07:38:31 UTC  

For now, I no longer care about Big Bang Theory.

2017-06-10 07:39:35 UTC  

It just did always exist like that. I tend to think.

2017-06-10 07:39:48 UTC  

" if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence---which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary."

2017-06-10 07:41:40 UTC  

The existence of the contingent universe must rest on something, and if it rested on some contingent being then that contingent being too would require some explanation of its existence. The ultimate explanation of the existence of all things, therefore, must be the existence of some necessary being. This necessary being is readily identified by proponents of the cosmological argument as God.

2017-06-10 07:41:45 UTC  

I do not agree with this mental gymnastics. It can go anyway from here. It may stop existing. Start. Or just keep.

2017-06-10 07:42:01 UTC  

But you have no explanation for that.

2017-06-10 07:42:05 UTC  

I have no data to judge.

2017-06-10 07:42:56 UTC  

Then don't judge.

2017-06-10 07:44:06 UTC  

And I do not. I just say that the laws of the matter - dialectics, are in contradiction with your theories.

2017-06-10 07:44:34 UTC  

But how really is we do not have data. SO far what we know it always been and always will be.

2017-06-10 07:44:43 UTC  

That is our experience.

2017-06-10 07:44:55 UTC  

Subjective experience.

2017-06-10 07:45:32 UTC  

Yes and our personal experience is that the individual will never die either. And yet reason explains we will die.

2017-06-10 07:45:52 UTC  

We see people dying.

2017-06-10 07:46:24 UTC  

We see galaxies moving away, too.

2017-06-10 07:47:09 UTC  

Thats just a fact. No connection with abstractions to it gladly.

2017-06-10 07:50:24 UTC  

Death is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:50:37 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-10 07:51:06 UTC  

It seems everything is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:51:35 UTC  

What is happening in your head? Yes.

2017-06-10 07:51:50 UTC  

But outside is objective world.

2017-06-10 07:52:01 UTC  

dialectical and material.

2017-06-10 07:52:07 UTC  

But the 'outside world' is also an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:52:14 UTC  

Nope