Message from @Firefly

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2017-06-10 07:34:47 UTC  

I agree with that.

2017-06-10 07:37:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323002845056204800/aBWd3qP_460s.jpg

2017-06-10 07:38:04 UTC  

So then here we are, at the intersection of explanations. I repeat the question, if the universe, and the things in it doesn't need to exist, why does it exist when it could have failed?

2017-06-10 07:38:31 UTC  

For now, I no longer care about Big Bang Theory.

2017-06-10 07:39:35 UTC  

It just did always exist like that. I tend to think.

2017-06-10 07:39:48 UTC  

" if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence---which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary."

2017-06-10 07:41:40 UTC  

The existence of the contingent universe must rest on something, and if it rested on some contingent being then that contingent being too would require some explanation of its existence. The ultimate explanation of the existence of all things, therefore, must be the existence of some necessary being. This necessary being is readily identified by proponents of the cosmological argument as God.

2017-06-10 07:41:45 UTC  

I do not agree with this mental gymnastics. It can go anyway from here. It may stop existing. Start. Or just keep.

2017-06-10 07:42:01 UTC  

But you have no explanation for that.

2017-06-10 07:42:05 UTC  

I have no data to judge.

2017-06-10 07:42:56 UTC  

Then don't judge.

2017-06-10 07:44:06 UTC  

And I do not. I just say that the laws of the matter - dialectics, are in contradiction with your theories.

2017-06-10 07:44:34 UTC  

But how really is we do not have data. SO far what we know it always been and always will be.

2017-06-10 07:44:43 UTC  

That is our experience.

2017-06-10 07:44:55 UTC  

Subjective experience.

2017-06-10 07:45:32 UTC  

Yes and our personal experience is that the individual will never die either. And yet reason explains we will die.

2017-06-10 07:45:52 UTC  

We see people dying.

2017-06-10 07:46:24 UTC  

We see galaxies moving away, too.

2017-06-10 07:47:09 UTC  

Thats just a fact. No connection with abstractions to it gladly.

2017-06-10 07:50:24 UTC  

Death is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:50:37 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-10 07:51:06 UTC  

It seems everything is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:51:35 UTC  

What is happening in your head? Yes.

2017-06-10 07:51:50 UTC  

But outside is objective world.

2017-06-10 07:52:01 UTC  

dialectical and material.

2017-06-10 07:52:07 UTC  

But the 'outside world' is also an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:52:14 UTC  

Nope

2017-06-10 07:52:14 UTC  

jews

2017-06-10 07:52:23 UTC  

Is there anything that isn't an abstraction?

2017-06-10 07:52:40 UTC  

(((you)))

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2017-06-10 07:52:56 UTC  

Outside world is both objective and abstract in your head.

2017-06-10 07:53:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323006666792501258/1496559018219.png

2017-06-10 07:53:35 UTC  

Nope. Bothness is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:53:49 UTC  

You guys like being part of a movement made by the eternal jew?

2017-06-10 07:54:00 UTC  

Yes, it is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:54:11 UTC  

left/pol/ is a mistake

2017-06-10 07:54:41 UTC  

Objectivity is an abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:54:47 UTC  

Yes!

2017-06-10 07:54:56 UTC  

You starting to get it

2017-06-10 07:54:58 UTC  

Abstraction is abstraction.

2017-06-10 07:55:03 UTC  

Yes!