i think two men should be able to symbolically fuck and adopt lel

Sterilization is the only 100% effective contraception.

Or abstinence

Yes.

Abstinence until marriage is the best option

If an individual uses multiple different contraceptive methods at a time, the chance of a baby happening is a very low probability.

ya that marriage is gonna be healthy for sure, dont know shit about them and completely clueless on sexual compatibility

If the baby does indeed occur, the couple can look to abortion.

Having kids isn't a duty

No, I said (mistakenly) that heterosexual couples could who are sterile could symbolically have sex before an adoption to go through the same process as a regular couple. But same sex couples are different because there is no process for procreation. It is apples and oranges.

ok

But I was forced to retract this position.

forced too lel

The biggest threat children with homosexual parents can face is criticism from society.

You successfully killed my sympathies.

pretty much

Abortion is more immoral that illegitimate children.

I feel like the biggest threat children with homosexual "parents" face is the likelihood of them being raped.

i dont like abortion either tbh but im not allowed to have a opinion on the matter strongly one way or the other cause i dont have a womb

Of course you're allowed to have an opinion. Do you value human life?

Right wing conspiracies

Wow, is this server full of sodomites?

I assume statistics are right wing conspiracies too.

maybe i had a hysterectomy

Supporting common sense isn't being a sodomite

So you support the physical removal of sodomites?

You're looking extreme right now chopin

Because that's common sense

Stalin was right on sodomites

No, that's belief that they're bad

Socialism can be conservative.

reactionary socialism

Stalin had the view of the old science

And marxism isn't religion

Abortion is the termination of a potentiality for life, not the murder of a living being.

why does it matter what stalins opinions were

If it has replicating cells then it's alive.

If I kill you in your sleep, did I murder you or was it just termination of a potential life?

hes not a god, and people taking his opinions as doctrine is straight retarded

True

A sleeping Sultan Baibars is a living Sultan Baibars.