Message from @Blebleh
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A sleeping Sultan Baibars is a living Sultan Baibars.
After 8 weeks the probability of successful childbirth is 90%.
@Deleted User It's not the same, they aren't born yet and they didn't develop in the first months; they're cells
It's still a living being
not yet
about as alive as a fly
So you if go to sleep with a probability of waking up to be 90%, and I kill you, it is not murder?
So single celled organisms aren't alive?
their organs and consciousness aren't formed yet
yes, there are; but humans are multicellular
So they magically become human as soon as they're born?
i think it might be arguable that new borns up to 3 years old arent human yet
pigs are smarter than your average 3 year old
Yet.
no, the fetus goes through a development and birth is the last, the child is ready to get on the outside and breath without depending on the mother
The only distinguishing thing is time.
Which you took away from them.
do you eat meat?
A pig will never be a human.
Pigs feel too
pigs are pretty damn smart, it might be one of the most evil things we eat
ya i use to be really vegan, now i eat all sorta shit
i was vegan as a kid from 6-15 cause i dunno my brothers use to torture animals in front of me and it turned me off to eating meat
I don't torture animals. They are slain humanely.
hmmm do you do it kosher? cause that shit is brutal
Kosher meat?
In any way, they're slain
ya kosher meat is like done via sliting throught
and like having them bleed out
There is a different between an unborn child who has as 90+% of becoming fully human, and a farm animal.
they suffere significantly
its actually been illegalized somewhere recently
i mean i disagree chopin but to each their own
I don't eat Kosher and or Halal, don't believe in those religions.
Circumcision without the consent of a child aged 13 or older should also be illegal.
I agree.
@Deleted User First months are cells; that's why it's not the same until they developed organs and consciousness
No argument there
With circumcision