Message from @Mros

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2017-06-12 06:11:50 UTC  

My brain hurt for several days on this topic.

2017-06-12 06:11:55 UTC  

(in short, night guys. God bless)

2017-06-12 06:12:05 UTC  

Have a good rest.

2017-06-12 06:12:09 UTC  

Goodnight

2017-06-12 06:12:53 UTC  

Marxism is also strictly atheist.

2017-06-12 06:13:29 UTC  

Opiate of the masses

2017-06-12 06:14:44 UTC  

Distributism is critical of both Socialism and Capitalism, which puts it on an awkward place on the political spectrum.

2017-06-12 06:15:02 UTC  

The political spectrum is only so versatile

2017-06-12 06:15:02 UTC  

I can already predict the Marxist arguments.

2017-06-12 06:15:08 UTC  

What are they?

2017-06-12 06:16:00 UTC  

"If you are not for complete public ownership, you are with the bourgeoisie"

2017-06-12 06:16:17 UTC  

Does that criticism hold any weight?

2017-06-12 06:16:34 UTC  

Only if God doesn't exist.

2017-06-12 06:17:19 UTC  

If God exists, it changes the whole social dynamic, as quoted in above passages.

2017-06-12 06:17:51 UTC  

The Church is not publicly owned. If it was it would be destroyed.

2017-06-12 06:18:31 UTC  

Yes, the hierarchy of the church is essential to it's survival.

2017-06-12 06:19:43 UTC  

This is way Aquinas is so important. He uses natural reason to prove that God exists. Basically constructing a material basis for His existence. Marxists have no counterargument, They have to dismiss it as an abstraction or a spook etc.

2017-06-12 06:20:42 UTC  

*"Putting it succinctly, Christ's Church has no intention of yielding ground to her avowed enemy, atheistic communism, without a struggle. This battle will be fought to the end, but with the weapons of Christ!"* Encyclical On Guiding Principles of the Lay Apostolate by Pope Pius XII to the Second World Congress of the Lay Apostolate, 1957

2017-06-12 06:21:08 UTC  

The tradition of scholasticism in the church is a very important one.

2017-06-12 06:21:34 UTC  

It's allowed the Church's theology to be built and strengthened over a period of 2,000 years

2017-06-12 06:22:12 UTC  

Aquinas never could have done what he did without the Church fathers, and going back even farther, aristotle.

2017-06-12 06:23:05 UTC  

When you linked Compendium of Theology, I couldn't believe what I was reading. It is a remarkable achievement that singlehandedly persuated me that Christianity does indeed have intellectual nerve.

2017-06-12 06:25:32 UTC  

The image of Christinaity being a backwards and anti-reason comes mostly from the modern day manifestation of cultural Christianity. It's particularly evident in protestantism.

2017-06-12 06:26:05 UTC  

At first it was extremely disjointing. Up until this point I thought such an achievement was impossible. You are right, Luther ruined everything.

2017-06-12 06:27:06 UTC  

I searched high and low for a coherent counterargument, and found none. I was met with strawmen and stabs in the dark which are individually very weak.

2017-06-12 06:27:29 UTC  

There's a reason most atheists don't really bring up Aquinas.

2017-06-12 06:28:03 UTC  

Like a deer in the headlights. That was me.

2017-06-12 06:29:03 UTC  

But I could have easily resorted to emotion or arbitrary justification and handwaving.

2017-06-12 06:29:30 UTC  

"It's an obscurity" "What could a fat virgin possibly know"

2017-06-12 06:29:37 UTC  

lol

2017-06-12 06:29:58 UTC  

Or better yet, "He was from the 13th century!"

2017-06-12 06:30:20 UTC  

TJ sodomized himself with a banana.

2017-06-12 06:30:24 UTC  

Go figure.

2017-06-12 06:30:25 UTC  

He did worse

2017-06-12 06:30:34 UTC  

Abused a mentally ill girl

2017-06-12 06:31:10 UTC  

Just smoke more pot, man.

2017-06-12 06:33:42 UTC  

Herbal relativism.

2017-06-12 06:34:34 UTC  

Never heard that one

2017-06-12 06:37:32 UTC  

Neither had I.

2017-06-12 06:37:51 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323712487386251277/7a71ebf06e64a707f2228243a683a229.jpg

2017-06-12 06:41:13 UTC  

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