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2017-06-13 02:55:20 UTC  

Yes, and that is the purpose of Aquinas' reasoning.

2017-06-13 02:55:46 UTC  

Just because we cannot prove beyond a doubt that God does or does not exist, we can have a belief that is informed by reason.

2017-06-13 02:56:18 UTC  

From an empirical point of view, this resigns God to the theoretical.

2017-06-13 02:57:02 UTC  

I am God

2017-06-13 02:57:03 UTC  

Empircism can only really be limited to the physical.

2017-06-13 02:57:12 UTC  

All of you are robots

2017-06-13 02:57:24 UTC  

But it is certainly something worth thinking about

2017-06-13 02:57:26 UTC  

You simply do not realize it

2017-06-13 02:57:49 UTC  

@מוות שחור#2673 No, you have it backwards.

2017-06-13 02:58:14 UTC  

Very funny comrade

2017-06-13 02:58:22 UTC  

I will give you some shekels

2017-06-13 02:58:58 UTC  

When you say 'limited to the physical', that is difficult to conceptualise. For something to have an effect on the world, like as a First Mover, it must have some physical reality, in its actualisation.

2017-06-13 02:59:07 UTC  

True.

2017-06-13 02:59:20 UTC  

💊eat this pill to win big money

2017-06-13 02:59:32 UTC  

I promise is not dangerous

2017-06-13 02:59:47 UTC  

When I say that I suppose I mean that God as a being exists beyond what we know to be physical. This does not however mean that he cannot intervene in the physical world.

2017-06-13 03:00:03 UTC  

Although I'm sure that there are others who have put much more thought into it than me.

2017-06-13 03:00:47 UTC  

No that's a fair point. The definition of 'material' is constantly changing.

2017-06-13 03:01:48 UTC  

We should all convert to Judaism

2017-06-13 03:01:59 UTC  

Why?

2017-06-13 03:04:49 UTC  

And yet the idea of 'proving the existance of God through empirical means' still seems impossibile. Hardline materialists will never accept an inferred existence, unless by some miracle.

2017-06-13 03:04:58 UTC  

That's another thing. Catholic believe in miracles.

2017-06-13 03:05:42 UTC  

I like this man named Johannes

2017-06-13 03:06:44 UTC  

Well we can join the majority of modern rabbis that the scribes of Mt Zion are right in their interpretations of the Torah and the old laws

2017-06-13 03:06:57 UTC  

And thus make respecting the gentiles null

2017-06-13 03:07:01 UTC  

I never understood that. I mean, theologically, I understand why Catholics believe in miracles, and rationality, I know it follows after you can show logical proofs for God, but these too, the miracles, do not confirm to empiricism either. It is not step closer to God in the material base.

2017-06-13 03:07:03 UTC  

Because we can do whatever the fuck we want

2017-06-13 03:08:18 UTC  

Do all Fascists have authority fetishes?

2017-06-13 03:08:30 UTC  

If you show logical proof for God how do you know which religion's god it is

2017-06-13 03:08:40 UTC  

Aquinas showed it.

2017-06-13 03:09:04 UTC  

How does he know it is the Christian god

2017-06-13 03:09:13 UTC  

What did he argue for this

2017-06-13 03:09:21 UTC  

He used natural reason to proof the Trinity.

2017-06-13 03:09:33 UTC  

because he sent down his son down to earth lmao

2017-06-13 03:10:31 UTC  

What did Aquinas argue in respect to Jesus

2017-06-13 03:10:38 UTC  

How does he know he is not a false messiah

2017-06-13 03:11:49 UTC  

That's a separate argument on the 'miracle' of early Christianity.

2017-06-13 03:12:06 UTC  

Resurrection?

2017-06-13 03:12:31 UTC  

There are other more recent miracles too.

2017-06-13 03:12:40 UTC  

One that comes to mind was in Portugal in 1917