Message from @Sorghagtani Beki
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so those who felt it was important to care established standards
it seems incorrect to exclude emotion from a moral debate
but i can see why you might disagree
Let's have a moral debate on the death penalty
Someone gets emotional and says it should not happen because human rights bla bla
I say it should happen to a mob boss because he'll operate within prison anyways
So might as well give him the syringe
Which choice is better for society as a whole
I think it's moral if the guilt is proven beyond any doubt
Yes of course
In cases of unforgivable violence
You don't kill maybe innocent people
well there were numerous debates on death penalties around the world and it was found that many people are disgusted by it, so it became law that the practice was no longer enacted
Look everyone is going to use emotions in a debate regardless unless they're psychopaths and cannot feel emotion. However, You cannot make pure emotional statements with nothing to back its utility
Yeah that's retarded
Some people have to die
@מוות שחור#2673 There is a difference between something able to exist, and something being able to be argued for. Obviously, existence precedes reason. And reason never reaches infallible conclusions, it is relative to previous ones, and therefore can at once be totally wrong. Reason and debate exists on a lesser level than emotion: both produce our motivations in the world, but in terms of truth, the comprehension through emotion is capable of a higher level of understanding because it has the capacity to comprehend that which is yet unproven.
Like mob bosses and gang leaders who can operate within prisons
No emotion cannot comprehend what is yet unproven it *assumes* the unproven is proven
It *assumes* truth
You can assume truth on literally anything
A Muslim can assume truth
A Christian can assume truth
An atheist can assume truth
But sometimes that assumption resembles truth.
Assuming things exist is literally retarded
It resembles truth because you want to believe it does
It makes you happy
It helps you cope
Retarded line of logic
It says nothing about *truth*
Simply what YOU want truth to be
Do you understand?
truth seems to be an unrelated topic
No it's not
We're talking about the effectiveness of emotion in debates
In this case the existence of god
It is utterly useless
but im not talking about god