Message from @Jeff

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2017-06-15 07:05:37 UTC  

That's called placing bets

2017-06-15 07:05:45 UTC  

There are two realities: your internal reality, and an external reality

2017-06-15 07:06:14 UTC  

The only one that you can prove exists, prove to yourself I mean, is your internal one.

2017-06-15 07:06:39 UTC  

Because guess what even if my emotions told me germs exist there are probably thousands of other claims that other things exist from faith and emotions

2017-06-15 07:06:45 UTC  

You have a point. Emotions cannot make empirical claims. I have made a categorical error.

2017-06-15 07:06:55 UTC  

How do I know who's correct? At this point let's say no one knows if germs exist

2017-06-15 07:06:59 UTC  

You see the problem

2017-06-15 07:07:04 UTC  

You're assuming that you're the right one

2017-06-15 07:07:16 UTC  

You're assuming you're the guy who gambled and found out about the existence of germs

2017-06-15 07:07:20 UTC  

Right now you have no clue

2017-06-15 07:07:24 UTC  

Neither did the germ guy

2017-06-15 07:07:25 UTC  

You can see a bacterium in a microscope, but you can't prove that it's not in illusion or that you're not just in the Matrix

2017-06-15 07:07:28 UTC  

I have to abandon that God is an empirical claim.

2017-06-15 07:07:54 UTC  

You assume you're the correct one, the miraculous germ guy, when in actuality *you have no clue if you're not just one of the millions of people who are wrong*

2017-06-15 07:08:07 UTC  

That's called bias

2017-06-15 07:08:29 UTC  

God is a phenomenon. A psychological reality that actually affects the outcome of history.
Therefore, God as an idea has power to influence the external world.

2017-06-15 07:08:50 UTC  

any idea can influence the external world

2017-06-15 07:08:56 UTC  

Are ideas real?

2017-06-15 07:08:59 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-15 07:09:03 UTC  

They exist.

2017-06-15 07:09:06 UTC  

Where?

2017-06-15 07:09:16 UTC  

In your mind and the minds of others.

2017-06-15 07:09:26 UTC  

Sure god exists in minds of people

2017-06-15 07:09:32 UTC  

Just like Superman exists in comic books

2017-06-15 07:09:48 UTC  

That doesn't mean either exist in the external world

2017-06-15 07:09:48 UTC  

If people worshipped Superman, he would have power.

2017-06-15 07:10:06 UTC  

They're not sentient beings

2017-06-15 07:10:09 UTC  

They're just ideas

2017-06-15 07:10:11 UTC  

Myths

2017-06-15 07:10:13 UTC  

It depends on what you view as God

2017-06-15 07:10:21 UTC  

You can say that God is just The Great Design

2017-06-15 07:10:31 UTC  

Or you can say that God is Time

2017-06-15 07:10:39 UTC  

Some people used to worship Kronos, right?

2017-06-15 07:10:49 UTC  

All of those claims are based on nothing

2017-06-15 07:10:52 UTC  

They're just claims

2017-06-15 07:11:00 UTC  

They're based on feelings

2017-06-15 07:11:10 UTC  

You can experience God

2017-06-15 07:11:15 UTC  

I can claim the universe is a giant animal cell in an alien creature

2017-06-15 07:11:21 UTC  

You can experience many gods

2017-06-15 07:11:23 UTC  

Your faith makes it a reality

2017-06-15 07:11:34 UTC  

*a reality in your mind*