Message from @Deleted User

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2017-06-15 07:32:56 UTC  

How do you know this

2017-06-15 07:33:00 UTC  

Assumption?

2017-06-15 07:33:17 UTC  

I can assume things too

2017-06-15 07:33:21 UTC  

Your mind is a first-person ontological perspective, but it experiences God because the Design has come up with the experience of God

2017-06-15 07:33:23 UTC  

I can assume scientology

2017-06-15 07:33:26 UTC  

We're made in his image

2017-06-15 07:33:30 UTC  

His image

2017-06-15 07:33:33 UTC  

Oh you are?

2017-06-15 07:33:37 UTC  

How do you know?

2017-06-15 07:33:50 UTC  

I arrived at it through logic

2017-06-15 07:33:59 UTC  

Explain the logic

2017-06-15 07:34:08 UTC  

Without any assumptions

2017-06-15 07:34:11 UTC  

I want 0 assumptions

2017-06-15 07:34:13 UTC  

Explain.

2017-06-15 07:34:17 UTC  

Direct knowledge from God is not an assuption, it's 100% fact. It's a superfact even, greater than all other possible knowings. <:troll_king:312064227542040576>

2017-06-15 07:34:29 UTC  

You can't start logic without assumptions.

2017-06-15 07:34:38 UTC  

I think Jeff is just trollijg

2017-06-15 07:34:40 UTC  

Let's take the number 12 for example.

2017-06-15 07:34:43 UTC  

Does it exist?

2017-06-15 07:35:01 UTC  

Let's assume that it does.

2017-06-15 07:35:03 UTC  

Only our poor reason cannot comprehend the direct Absolute. Reason is child's play.

2017-06-15 07:35:03 UTC  

Yes it exists as an idea

2017-06-15 07:35:03 UTC  

but we are the sons of god and the kingdom of god is with in us and the father the sun and the holy spirit is with in us, so does that mean god is just us and that the idea of god is a internal thing we use to help us explain our humanity and its being stated in plain as fuck metaphorical language and anyone that doesnt notice it might as well be from the fucking dark ages

2017-06-15 07:35:09 UTC  

Okay, what is the number 12?

2017-06-15 07:35:14 UTC  

🤔

2017-06-15 07:35:28 UTC  

An idea to describe an amount

2017-06-15 07:35:32 UTC  

I say it exists more than an idea.

2017-06-15 07:35:48 UTC  

When it's 12 o clock, it's literally actually 12 o clock, in the external world.

2017-06-15 07:36:01 UTC  

Time is a social construct

2017-06-15 07:36:05 UTC  

We've been through this

2017-06-15 07:36:15 UTC  

You can't just say something isn't real just because it's constructed.

2017-06-15 07:36:55 UTC  

So okay, we have the number 12. It's real. It exists. We use it to attach meaning to quantities, time, and to operate within the framework of reality.

2017-06-15 07:37:11 UTC  

Answer this: if direct knowledge of God was given to you, could you use your understand of reason to prove it?

2017-06-15 07:37:33 UTC  

what would direct proof of god be

2017-06-15 07:37:33 UTC  

Jeff What makes your assumptions better than mine?

2017-06-15 07:37:38 UTC  

Let's say I assume Tengri exists

2017-06-15 07:37:41 UTC  

What's your response?

2017-06-15 07:38:07 UTC  

@Deleted User Deep prayer, hesychasm.

2017-06-15 07:38:07 UTC  

I say that's a nice religion. Good for you.

2017-06-15 07:38:30 UTC  

oh so faith based un-provable things