Message from @Deleted User

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2017-06-30 04:49:28 UTC  

You have to build the wall (to keep them in).

2017-06-30 04:50:12 UTC  
2017-06-30 04:50:35 UTC  

Then that is why the state must build confidence in it's population.

2017-06-30 04:50:56 UTC  

If it must become an authoritarian state to do so, then so be it.

2017-06-30 04:51:14 UTC  

Yes, and its confidence is completely decided by catering to the whims of the population, which is a losing battle.

2017-06-30 04:51:40 UTC  

You have to have an iron fist, and show the way, even if they do not like it.

2017-06-30 04:52:08 UTC  

Then that is what the government must do.

2017-06-30 04:52:41 UTC  

This is why I believe in a very strong government, because it will show the population the correct way, even if it is a rude awakening.

2017-06-30 04:53:37 UTC  

Personal interests like profit work against a strong government. Which is way it must move towards socialism, so no one can claim personal interests in profits. They must commit themselves to the state for full compliance and productivity.

2017-06-30 04:54:12 UTC  

It may not be clear now, but when shit hits the fan, it becomes the only way forward.

2017-06-30 04:54:30 UTC  

And then what happens when things calm down?

2017-06-30 04:55:31 UTC  

Things calm down when global capitalism is destroyed. The world population is educated. And then there is no more need for the state. But then the free market will not return, because man has learned to live without exploitation.

2017-06-30 04:55:38 UTC  

And why can't profit be beneficial to the state if done correctly?

2017-06-30 04:55:58 UTC  

Profit starts the cycle all over again.

2017-06-30 04:56:08 UTC  

There can be no profit. Ever.

2017-06-30 04:57:07 UTC  

Like I said, the free market I have in mind will be modified not to produce explotiation of the people, but to genuinely distribute not just essential resources, but also luxuries that people will get using currency.

2017-06-30 04:58:44 UTC  

Free market implies private ownership, which leads to competition, which leads to accrue of capital.

2017-06-30 04:59:03 UTC  

And to acquire resources, the population would use and do whatever they needed to, then would sell them to somewhere else where they may be perfected then sold again to be distributed.

2017-06-30 04:59:05 UTC  

All property must be publically owned.

2017-06-30 04:59:37 UTC  

How do you reasonably expect humans not to compete with each other?

2017-06-30 04:59:50 UTC  

Even if free market could somehow be used only for distribution, it is not very efficient.

2017-06-30 05:00:00 UTC  

Humans compete is other ways, not personal interest.

2017-06-30 05:00:29 UTC  

Like I said, the free market would also be used to distribute luxuries that a company would produce then sell.

2017-06-30 05:00:59 UTC  

Very similarly to our own, but would be modified not to produce corporations or monopolies that manipulate populations to their will.

2017-06-30 05:01:23 UTC  

There is a fundamental problem here. I guess we cannot continue.

2017-06-30 05:02:08 UTC  

Free market without capitalism is an oxymoron. It can only be used as a stop-gap in some instances of need.

2017-06-30 05:02:13 UTC  

And yes, I do mean that private property should and always should exist.

2017-06-30 05:03:02 UTC  

Let people compete for workers aristocracy position

2017-06-30 05:03:50 UTC  

I would argue otherwise, as I believe that if you removed the juden behind it who used the system to manipulate governments and people, and modified it so that they could never exist again, then you could have it work more for the benefit of humanity.

2017-06-30 05:04:24 UTC  

Nothing exist always even stars

2017-06-30 05:05:18 UTC  

?

2017-06-30 05:05:42 UTC  

I do mean that private property should and always should exist.

2017-06-30 05:06:04 UTC  

1. People become successful in free market
2. Work towards their own interests
3. Personal interest conflict with public interest
IT WAS THE JEWS

Really?

2017-06-30 05:06:07 UTC  

I don't know what you are getting at, even if you are shit posting.

2017-06-30 05:07:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/330212622521860097/og_og_1464005607213164406.jpg

2017-06-30 05:08:22 UTC  

@Deleted User Red Power means that technically, nothing lasts forever, not even private property. He's just being autistic.

2017-06-30 05:08:24 UTC  

@Chopin#0138 If you take notice almost all owners of extremely large corporations, tend to either fall under jewish decent, this combined with the fact that they often manipulate governments and populations to their will IE: george soros funding islamic terror groups and antifa.

2017-06-30 05:09:20 UTC  

Though I also believe that in the free market, people should be stopped when their interests in the company begin to overlap the interest of the state, and should be shut down.

2017-06-30 05:09:32 UTC  

>shut it down

2017-06-30 05:09:57 UTC  

(That or when they begin to manipulate or oppress people with their company)

2017-06-30 05:10:32 UTC  

I'm afraid you cannot have both. Either free market and personal interest wins, or the state and social interest wins. There is no inbetween because they are contradictory aims. But that's fine, you can pretend otherwise