ignorance is strength

there were a lot of good quotes in his books

I agree

Rebellion is it's own reward.

but rebel against the real enemy

Well guys I need to go to sleep it's almost 4 am

Thank you it's been a good conversation

you too, have a good night

But how much rebellion can one system take before it gets out of control?

I don't know. The image is not pleasing.

i dont know but i think were seeing a little bit of it in the US

My sceptical mind says that they want to used it to bring in a new government of Fascism. A more interventionist, security state to more fully apply to interests of international finance.

It's just so maddening to see everyone in a trace.

the truthis people believe what is most pleasing its not common for a person to be truly pragmatic

And then I kick back and think, well, this is a human issue, why can't we just detach and forget about this, become better human beings? But what does that even look like? I guess this is the slave's dilemma, I want freedom but I am so afraid of what it would look like. Should I start with myself or should I try to bring lots of people? I feel like a crazy person. I guess most people in my position just survive, and see what the future brings.

its hard to do anything else you can find a small cause and try to work on it then interconnections comes into play because you have so many little things to work on and even if you fix a small part it deterierates because what it was connected to was ignored

the whole thing is set up to fail

Hmmm, you mean in trying to fix it?

yes trying to fix a system of interconnections is a nightmare

@Deleted User I used to be in your position. Found salvation in Taoism. Don't be biased, just check it out

I did an essay at university on Taoism.

taoism is a good philosophy

Yes I have stupid degree don't attack me.

it can at least bring you peace of mind

What was your conclusion?

Correct observation but ultimate unsatifactory to those who have analystical leanings. I.e. it works for peasents but once you get the western virus it is very, very hard to use unless you detach and become a mystic

I mean sure, but if the western rationalism fails to bring you a peace of mind, you have to resort to beliefs.

@Robin Thanks. I think I am just obsessed with working out a solution. There is none. But I want to try because I somehow feel invested in others and want to help them. A big weakness on mine.

Or just be a goddamn nihilist after saying Fuck it, I found these were the only ways ahead of me

i know exactly how you feel and ive fallen into incredible depressions because of it

one does not simply become a nihilist

Ah believe me, when you're in the middle of this clusterfuck of ideas and realize nothing relates, it becomes fairly easy

Luckily I'm not one though

tempararily

a deeply feeling person doesnt switch off

personality traits are not easily changed

hi

hello

Hmmm, at what point does nothing relate? I think this is relativism. And I don't mean that is some silly academic shut down, but when you throw up your arms and say 'everything is the same let's have fun'. That kind of thinking does not end well. At some time you have to decide where you are.

ive tried to shut out the world and sometimes i think ive come very close but it never lasts

i get very frustrated caring so much