Message from @Tristan-Jyrki

Discord ID: 330678161673289728


2017-07-01 11:53:38 UTC  

yes land is pre existing and cannot really be created so its a valuable commodity

2017-07-01 11:53:41 UTC  

acknowledge collective ownership of the land, and therefore of all its products

2017-07-01 11:53:44 UTC  

well we do create new land

2017-07-01 11:53:50 UTC  

the dutch are especially good at this

2017-07-01 11:54:05 UTC  

make new planets

2017-07-01 11:54:10 UTC  

I think there are enough planets already

2017-07-01 11:54:12 UTC  

Yeah and generally via collective ownership you can ensure people the right to live in a house

2017-07-01 11:54:33 UTC  

you mean like those awful state apartments they have all over russia from the soviet union?

2017-07-01 11:55:42 UTC  

the ones that devistated rural communities and have caused long lasting effects to this day, like russians not having any culture of land cultivation or groundskeeping because no one owned their own land which is why former communist countries in eastern europe are notorious for unkempt lawns and messy streets

2017-07-01 11:55:49 UTC  

It's also a question about budget. I think the government should also prioritise maintaning the house

2017-07-01 11:55:53 UTC  

huh? no i don't mean like that, i'm an anarchist

2017-07-01 11:56:10 UTC  

you just want the government to take care of every one of your needs?

2017-07-01 11:56:19 UTC  

like a parent?

2017-07-01 11:56:21 UTC  

But whilst we're bringing up examples; I've been to Cuba and their entitled houses aren't really that bad

2017-07-01 11:56:31 UTC  

yeah they are dude

2017-07-01 11:56:37 UTC  

theyre not even allowed internet in cuba

2017-07-01 11:56:46 UTC  

wtf are you talking about

2017-07-01 11:56:48 UTC  

people sell USB sticks with american tv

2017-07-01 11:56:50 UTC  

they have internet cards

2017-07-01 11:56:54 UTC  

yeah

2017-07-01 11:56:57 UTC  

I'd know

2017-07-01 11:56:57 UTC  

which are blackmarket

2017-07-01 11:57:13 UTC  

Not really, and if so the government doesn't seem to mind

2017-07-01 11:57:23 UTC  

Mostly because literally everyone there has it

2017-07-01 11:57:32 UTC  

But anyway I don't see how this is relevant

2017-07-01 11:57:34 UTC  

youve been to cuba and know less about it than I do

2017-07-01 11:57:47 UTC  

its just another example of a backwards and regressive communist government

2017-07-01 11:58:02 UTC  

and internet is illegal in private homes in cuba

2017-07-01 11:58:47 UTC  

I can't believe you're using cuba as a positive example here

2017-07-01 11:58:52 UTC  

I never said I was for prohibiting internet access, I should said that having a public option for housing would be beneficial

2017-07-01 11:59:00 UTC  

but we do

2017-07-01 11:59:02 UTC  

Said*

2017-07-01 11:59:05 UTC  

we have state housing

2017-07-01 11:59:20 UTC  

and we do it better than any communist country ever did

2017-07-01 11:59:25 UTC  

since we dont force you to live in them

2017-07-01 11:59:31 UTC  

theyre there if you need them

2017-07-01 11:59:33 UTC  

Which country do you live in?

2017-07-01 11:59:47 UTC  

new zealand

2017-07-01 11:59:51 UTC  

but you have the same in America

2017-07-01 12:00:57 UTC  

I agree with the fact that Cuba is definitely too authorian on that matter, but my point was a public option doesn't have to mean bad maintainance