Message from @Seedle
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yes it is
libertarianism is small government, more freedom and capitalism
Not even necessarily capitalism.
no, libertarianism is capitalism with small state
e have big government right now
The state is an apparatus of a ruling class.
Right now it is yes
In Ancient Rome, the senate was filled with the Patricians.
bet they'd buy all sorts of goodies with the government there
saying that libertarianism wants "more capitlism" (whateer that means) is ill-argued
they just want capitslism with less state
Which is a freer capitalism
excuse my spelling
You can call it more or free, whatever
same
Government hinders capitalism, that's my issue
it's all capitalism, you cannot have degrees of capitalism
yes you can
then I'd very much like to hear your definition
When the government puts demands on free companies they decrease their freedom to operate how they want (within the law)
yes
because without those regulations
people would be fucked
it's a third party like i said
When a government privatizes a company you'd say the country got more capitalistic right
but related strongly with the ruling capitalist class
mine goes something like: Capitalism is a mode of production where the means of production are privately owned. The owner hires people to work in said means of production in order to gain profits"
That is true and what we have now
in order to gain capital* I.E. money for the sake of making more money
Howver the governments adds all sorts of blockades on those companies (mostly smaller ones)
the governemt is a part of the mode of production, in fact it is what defends and upholds the mode of production
They've been doing it more and more, government hardly ever gets smaller, now we have big govermment
saying the state is not a part of capitalism is pretty dumb
lol no
that's a big part of the anarchist argument anyway
You can't start a new government
You can start a new business
The government is a different animal