Message from @Sampuka

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2017-07-09 01:46:38 UTC  

the problem is that as an economic ideal, it really makes very little sense, so it's basically just American gun-nut "libertarians" who don't read all that much

2017-07-09 01:47:13 UTC  

the people who believe in it, I mean, the people who advocate against the government doing stuff who actually have power though, I don't think actually believe in that

2017-07-09 01:47:23 UTC  

they just want to concentrate more money in the hands of the few

2017-07-09 01:53:06 UTC  

Wether you guys like it or not, Hitler was left wing. He was a socialist. But valued the natural way of things and was very nationalist amidst a globalist climate in Europe. He is really hated because he kicked out the bankers and started a new currency.

Holocaust was a lie

2017-07-09 01:53:49 UTC  

how is he socialist?

2017-07-09 01:54:04 UTC  

iirc his definition of socialism is pretty laughable

2017-07-09 01:54:25 UTC  

he supported national capital over international capital, just a different part of the ruling class

2017-07-09 01:55:41 UTC  

National Socialism.

2017-07-09 01:56:01 UTC  

yes, and North Korea is democratic

2017-07-09 01:56:10 UTC  

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

2017-07-09 01:56:16 UTC  

^

2017-07-09 01:56:27 UTC  

It was state socialism where he had absolute power of the nation's social and economic problems for the good of the people

2017-07-09 01:56:42 UTC  

but there were bourgeosie

2017-07-09 01:56:58 UTC  

he even purged the socialists from the party

2017-07-09 01:57:10 UTC  

socialism is the elimination of classes, nazism was class collaboration

2017-07-09 01:57:25 UTC  

Haha. Just let what I said sink in

2017-07-09 01:57:39 UTC  

you're not really being original

2017-07-09 01:57:51 UTC  

really fires up my nuggin

2017-07-09 01:57:54 UTC  

you're bringing up old points which have been refuted a thousand times before

2017-07-09 01:58:00 UTC  

it's not clever, it's boring

2017-07-09 01:58:14 UTC  

only an american could possibly think nazis was socialism tbh

2017-07-09 01:58:40 UTC  

ehh, I could say some European centre-right people thinking that

2017-07-09 01:58:43 UTC  

*see

2017-07-09 01:58:53 UTC  

CDU, VVD, etc.

2017-07-09 01:58:55 UTC  

yeah I kinda take that back after writing it tbh

2017-07-09 01:59:09 UTC  

but I imagine it being more prominent among americans at least

2017-07-09 01:59:15 UTC  

probably

2017-07-09 01:59:32 UTC  

since americans have such weird political discourse

2017-07-09 02:00:53 UTC  

You guys aren't very smart are you

2017-07-09 02:01:13 UTC  

American political discourse is basically focused on people, along with stereotypes with very little actual thinking going on

2017-07-09 02:01:33 UTC  

@Dontkillmyvibe if you have a point please tell

2017-07-09 02:01:47 UTC  

so "Trump is crazy" as opposed to "Trump serves a section of capital which doesn't benefit from globalization, but is also against the working class"

2017-07-09 02:02:09 UTC  

not that Europeans are great at the latter either, but not so bad as Americans normally 😛

2017-07-09 02:02:36 UTC  

most pro-trump and anti-trump both come off as pretty dumb

2017-07-09 02:03:03 UTC  

well, I'd say all pro-trump and most anti-trump

2017-07-09 02:03:47 UTC  

there are some sources that are critical of Trump, but also critical of the American political establishment as a whole, which I think is quite reasonable

2017-07-09 02:04:26 UTC  

though saying that, I'm moderately pro-Trump, just because he fucks up America's image across the world and is screwing America's relationship with Europe

2017-07-09 02:04:40 UTC  

Obama made too many Europeans like the U.S.

2017-07-09 02:04:50 UTC  

accelerationism ahoy

2017-07-09 02:05:03 UTC  

basically 😛

2017-07-09 02:05:53 UTC  

is he really that different from the other people though?