Message from @AaronMk

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2017-07-19 09:10:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337159210825416704/image.png

2017-07-19 09:10:25 UTC  

issa meme

2017-07-19 09:10:34 UTC  

just a meme, *bro*

2017-07-19 09:18:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337161211605024778/image.jpg

2017-07-19 09:23:47 UTC  

>just a meme
Why waste eyeball energy on random pixels. Back in my day, memes meant something.

2017-07-19 09:24:16 UTC  

When you sit down and think about it everything in the world is memes.

2017-07-19 09:24:28 UTC  

It's just that rarely does anything combine to make a truely gold meme

2017-07-19 09:29:50 UTC  

It is true. But the sad part is that people call memes what are very bad exanples. 'Just a meme' is code for spam and should be treated as such.

2017-07-19 09:29:54 UTC  

i wish black men were more like that toy so there'd be less crime

2017-07-19 09:31:48 UTC  

Humans and toys are both objects. They are both made by material focuses. Capitalism made the black problem, do not blame the toy for being the way it was made.

2017-07-19 09:32:28 UTC  

Don't blame people for their actions, blame something intangible

2017-07-19 09:33:05 UTC  

What kind of vague shit is saying just capitalism as a whole is why criminality exists?

2017-07-19 09:33:59 UTC  

Personal responsibility based on free will is not scientific. Only cause and effect is an explanation, unless you are a mystic or idealist idiot.

2017-07-19 09:35:33 UTC  

everything is a spook tbh

2017-07-19 09:35:54 UTC  

How come people who hate Marx and Engels have never read it.

2017-07-19 09:35:54 UTC  

Theft is a spook, murder is a spook

2017-07-19 09:36:25 UTC  

I never said 'spook'. You are debating a straw man.

2017-07-19 09:38:50 UTC  

Stirner is moron begging to be crushed under the foot of materialists who understand the reality of power of social forces.

2017-07-19 09:39:24 UTC  

tbh saying nobody has any personal responsibility for their predicament just opens the way to attacking scapegoats for things going wrong rather than sorting the situation out yourself

2017-07-19 09:40:47 UTC  

did somon say

2017-07-19 09:40:48 UTC  

spoog

2017-07-19 09:41:05 UTC  

If you no not believe in the myth, how do you use it to blame another? Typical reactionary thinking, based on mythology instead of material reality.

2017-07-19 09:45:24 UTC  

what myth lad? The line of thought for me is simple, someone does action, they're responsible for doing it beause they did it. Commiting a crime like murder isn't from delegation by the all-controlling force of capitalism

2017-07-19 09:47:47 UTC  

I am not against punishment, but the reason there is murder is not by some moral choice within the individual to perform it. Murderers are made by their social conditions, not by some mystical force of an all powerful free will. That is the point of difference.

2017-07-19 09:49:51 UTC  

Capitalism, also being a material reality, must also play a role is shaping murderers. Can you deny this?

2017-07-19 09:54:47 UTC  

tbh that line of reasoning would put blame on pretty much everything for shaping a murderer and could be applies to everything from the grass being green to not brushing your teeth

2017-07-19 09:55:09 UTC  

a communist blaming capitalism for murders ayylmao

2017-07-19 09:55:12 UTC  

Why would capitalism trump other things when everything would contribute?

2017-07-19 09:55:48 UTC  

At least capitalism doesn't scapegoat random people (bourgies)

2017-07-19 09:56:35 UTC  

shitposting on the internet is a part of this material reality, has this post contributed to a murder?

2017-07-19 09:57:44 UTC  

Do you hate science? Every theory put forward to explain the world is based on material things not subjective ideas. Capitalism is the current social, political economic system, of course it is a major factor on human behaviour.

2017-07-19 09:58:52 UTC  

So why bother replacing it with another social, political economic system, you'll just have other (worse) problems

2017-07-19 09:59:42 UTC  

Your argument was "x, being a material reality, must also play a role is shaping murderers. Can you deny this?" the grass is green is a material reality, does that make a man murder?

2017-07-19 09:59:55 UTC  

Since it all comes together to influence the murder

2017-07-19 10:00:22 UTC  

Because class tensions have to be resolved and cannot last forever because there is pressure building under capitalism and increasing disparity between classes. Confrontation is ahead.

2017-07-19 10:01:12 UTC  

class tensions are not as bad as you think they are

2017-07-19 10:01:22 UTC  

tbh thinking you know reality because of observations is a bit wrong because at some level observation itself shapes things

2017-07-19 10:01:27 UTC  

Yes, in some very small way, even grass contributes to social conditions, because it too is material and exists in the world of cause and effect.

2017-07-19 10:01:30 UTC  

If anything the racial and sex related tensions are more a thing than class tension

2017-07-19 10:01:58 UTC  

there is hardly a proletarian to fight for, they're certainly not communist/socialist