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That just sounds like slavery with extra steps
No, it is freedom from slavery. But freedom isn't easy for someone not prepared for it. Which is why the Socialist state has to play a leading role in preparing the workers for their freedom.
That just sounds liek Slavery with extra steps
"You are free but not entirely, you must work tirelessly for the cause with no compensation for your work"
I don't see how it is slavery. There is no more economic exploitation. The workers own the production.
sounds like slavery to me
Everything seems like slavery to you. When you wake up out of bed and wash yourself, are you enslaved by your own needs? No.
You have to do it.
gee golly i'm glad there's no more economic exploitation, it's much easier to just cope with pure exploitation
again, you're still explaining slavery
Well, this is the future, based on resolving the class conflict.
"You have to brush your teeth every morning thus you must work for us with no compensation"
Compensation?
Compensate me for scratching my nuts, please.
That is the ultimate gibs mentality.
picking cotton isn't anything like scratching your balls
wanting compensation for your hours of hard work a day is now a "gibs mentality"?
So, what *isn't* slavery to you?
Yes.
you sound just like a 16th century slaver to me
But the surplus value goes directly to the workers. They own everything.
and thus they own nothing
Why is private ownership so important?
if you fuckers dont ban me i swear to god im just going to leave
ban me pussies
Slaves were given food, water, clothing, possesions and yet they were still slaves
you wont
But they slaves were exploited. Their surplus value when to the slaver owner.
they were slaves because they werent allowed to leave
and all of your labour, not even just the surplus is going to other people under your preferred system
everything you make is taken from you
Anyway, you don't seem to grasp the basic idea that poor people are always going to be pissed. Unless you give them what they want, you have to oppress them for eternity, which is not feasible. But you're welcome to try.
Did someone say picking Cotton?
Of course poors are going to be pissed if you tell them they deserve to live like kings
I have two questions regarding communism.
receiving compensation for your labour is you owning it
It's not about what you tell them. All oppressed peoples in history revolt.
from a collectivised perspective giving everything to the people is freedom but in truth nobody gets anything
nobody has choice
Why not?