Message from @carlton™

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2017-07-25 22:19:56 UTC  

the manchu rulers adopted it to make them less hated

2017-07-25 22:19:58 UTC  

>how

2017-07-25 22:20:00 UTC  

the hair

2017-07-25 22:20:02 UTC  

manchu citizens were forced

2017-07-25 22:20:03 UTC  

is a great example

2017-07-25 22:20:05 UTC  

Pretty much the only example of Manchu cultured forced on the Han was the hair.

2017-07-25 22:20:25 UTC  

that's a pretty big deal actually

2017-07-25 22:20:33 UTC  

one hairstyle to signify submission? pretty big deal

2017-07-25 22:20:46 UTC  

or be executed if you don't

2017-07-25 22:20:56 UTC  

too bad it didn't work

2017-07-25 22:21:02 UTC  

But you seem to imply there was a vast effort on the part of the Manchu to culturally integrate the Han into the Manchu.

2017-07-25 22:21:08 UTC  

I never implied that

2017-07-25 22:21:15 UTC  

The queue was used as a way to enforce Qing authority, nothing more.

2017-07-25 22:21:22 UTC  

never implied

2017-07-25 22:21:23 UTC  

It was not meant to force Manchu culture.

2017-07-25 22:21:32 UTC  

never implied

2017-07-25 22:21:34 UTC  

"they tried to assert themself over Han culture and it failed miserably"

2017-07-25 22:21:43 UTC  

assert, not push their own culture

2017-07-25 22:21:46 UTC  

That actually does imply it.

2017-07-25 22:21:50 UTC  

no it doesn't

2017-07-25 22:22:07 UTC  

It does, but I'm not going to strawman you if that's not what you meant. It's not important.

2017-07-25 22:22:08 UTC  

proselytizing your culture on someone else vs hightening your own are two very different things

2017-07-25 22:22:43 UTC  

It was only meant as a way to root out those willing to submit to Qing authority and those who wouldn't.

2017-07-25 22:22:50 UTC  

exactly, the latter

2017-07-25 22:22:56 UTC  

I never implied the former

2017-07-25 22:22:58 UTC  

Mongolian is better in Cyrillic

2017-07-25 22:23:06 UTC  

All languages should be in Cyrillic imo

2017-07-25 22:23:16 UTC  

Russian looks better in characters

2017-07-25 22:23:16 UTC  

It's the superior way of writing

2017-07-25 22:23:26 UTC  

Давай, товарищ!

2017-07-25 22:23:34 UTC  

2017-07-25 22:23:45 UTC  

English is the best. That's why everyone uses it. 👍

2017-07-25 22:23:55 UTC  

不要不要

2017-07-25 22:24:11 UTC  

美国人混蛋啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊

2017-07-25 22:24:14 UTC  

No everyone uses it because the English colonised 1/4 of the world lmao

2017-07-25 22:24:28 UTC  

You keep talking about China and I'm here like #BringBackTheYuanDynasty

2017-07-25 22:24:41 UTC  

Britain didn't colonize China, yet it's used as a business language there.

2017-07-25 22:24:48 UTC  

inb4 hong kong

2017-07-25 22:24:51 UTC  

WOW hong kong

2017-07-25 22:25:12 UTC  

it's a business language because westerners use our manufacturies

2017-07-25 22:25:26 UTC  

It's a lingua franca because Americans kick ass.