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they sieged rome
multiple times
both the ostrogoths and visigoths sacked rome I am pretty sure
They did
and then they granted spain to the visigoths
It was going to happen anyway, they didn't integrate peoples
the moment they let difference thrive
was the moment they allowed the potential for conflict
I dont think thats the best way of looking at it
there is a reason eastern rome survived
and its because of the balkan shield
to keep the goths and alans out
visigoths raided balkans but the byzantines could always retreat to constantiople
That was circumstantial
if it wasn't for their defenses they would've succumbed as well
yeah thats what I'm saying
but the byzantines had tons of foreign fighters as well
which is a tradition that went well into the high middle ages
here is a great song
after the fall of rome
the Greeks were fairly integrated into roman culture
and thus they clung onto it
varagians were like 900s to 1200s or 1300s
but the point is they were foreign fighters
and it didnt cause them any problems
was quite a benefit actually
They were influenced by money
they had no real reason to care for the stability of the state
they had no connection to the empire
other than a contract
yet they sustained it until the crusades destroyed it
the byzantine empire that is
They weren't truly the roman empire
they were just a bastard offspring
the real empire, the real thing died in the 400s
yes but my point is that its not fair to just say foreign fighters (like roman allae) were the reason for rome's downfall
it was that combined with the circumstance of a mass migration and woefully ill prepared geography to repell it
Yep
Culture clash