It is trying to increase your market sexual value with wasteful activities which do not relate to any labour.

It is first class to self destruction.

It also improves your physical performance and health, it's the exact opposite of self destruction

Third, the homeless person who dies from hypothermia cannot 'sort himself out'.

It is a disconnect from reality. 90% of the world is not western academia, again relating to his disconnect.

This middle age fuckup just rides you all the way to the bank.

@Deleted User 'Physical performance' towards what?? Being a useless bench press machine?

Sports, combat, sexual value, health, ability to perform physical labour when needed

You're saying words, but I don;t see how any of it is real. By 'real' I mean, how you do it every day to survive, relating to how you get your resources.

One day the supermarket will shut down, and you can't benchpress your way to survival.

I am not cynical like this.

But you can win a fight over limited resources if you have more muscle strength

It may not ever happen.

But I am saying that we are disconnect from our means of production

We are just doing other things, besides being solid and connected to existance.

I'm talking shit now. Thanks for listening.

And is there any intrinsic value you lose, when being disconnected from reality

Yes. All life is defined by how close he is to reality. If he lives in fantasy, he is a slave. If he live raw and hard, but still close his to means, he is enlightening, and understanding of his world.

The more people organise above you, or behind you, or for you, the little you know about your world.

Being naked and unafraid of the world is the clearest path to truth.

Who is he a slave of when living in their own fantasy

Simply, the world is prepared for you, the digest in a certain way. It is fake.

Ultimately your life is a series of experiences, what makes "real" input more valuable than imaginary but equally perceived input.

I understand what Chopin is saying

really I find anarcho-primitivism ideal for the soul

and the body

but we're close to being able to manipulate both anyway

genetic engineering will be an enormous progression

it will make this sort of rhetoric obsolete

What makes memories which you acquired through real sensory input more valuable than memories which were given to you by a machine

Easy. The memories you gain not direct are fake.

They are noise in your signal.

But what makes non-fake memories more valuable then

Only because they are real. If you don't care, live in fantasy.

fk this is deep

You can recursively go further and further down the "proof" that something real is more valuable than something fake, but eventually you hit a point where you can't give any more objective value to something

Does a cat question it's own realness?

I think your prison is your own fear and intellect.

real memories are more valuable because they're results of real events
-> real events are more valuable because they shaped reality
-> an effect on reality is more valuable because ...

where's the foundation at the end of this

there is none