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>Venezuela is in civil war
>Any trade with them could be stolen by rebels
Gee I don't know why we would freeze trade with venezuela
@National Trotskyist what happened to them later?
*factories
@Firefly#9983 Probably nothing was done with them.
That or they were bombed after becoming hideouts for rebels.
They need People's War
not this Maduro stupidity
Give the resolution a base
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The venezuelian civil war is going to be an interesting one, considering that there are going to be many, many, forces fighting for different causes.
Hey, what do you think about Pinochet? (Chilean Dictator that attacked Allende's socialist goverment)
@Deleted User exactly. Many teams, many causes. It's like a Free-for-all
Idk about him
Meh, I really have no opinion, I do not know much.
@KarmaCrow Mostly western degeneracy repetition.
He is revered for killing people and that is all I hear. So there is nothing I know except that.
@Deleted User he killed many people but he made Chile an "evolved" country including a neo liberalist economy.
Even lenin regected it and knew how bad it was.
@Deleted User I really respect right and left, but dude, its about keeping your people happy and alive. And shit, killing your own people for not being part of your party? Man, that's shit.
**Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.**
@Firefly#9983 Now wait a minute, I thought you commies thought that socialism came after capitalism
As a collective group the left needs to stop repeating the mistakes of autocratic socialism and Venequela is a prime example of that in my view, irrespective of any outside international influence that may have occurred.
@Deleted User yes.
Then why did you say that communism was the step after capitalism?
Not immediately next.
@LeftSide#6229 That is the issue with social democracy, it almost always ends up in a tyranical state that is torn apart by civil war or war in general.
@Deleted User yeah. The idea is not so bad, but in the practice every fucking left-wing will end up as a dictator.
Because the world economy is inherently capitalistic and as such any left wing power tends to autocracy to keep power.
Which is why social democracy is being looked at alot
Since it operates within capitalism
Yet it cannot sustain itself for a long time without taking away civil rights and becoming tyranical in order not to be destroyed by it's own population.
Well, I'm Antifa and Antico... so... I like to keep the things really balanced
In that sense I think Trotsky was right in saying socialism needs to be universal
Good luck with that.
Socialism will never be global.