Message from @Heimat

Discord ID: 344179807552012288


2017-08-07 18:03:38 UTC  

The U.S. allowed cheap Japanese exports to flood American markets, while simultaneously allowing and even encouraging Japanese tarriffs to ensure that Japanese markets remained closed to foreign goods

2017-08-07 18:03:51 UTC  

so their motive wasn't independence? a convenient consequence I suppose?

2017-08-07 18:04:02 UTC  

bruh are you guys seriously arguing about imperalism right now

2017-08-07 18:04:10 UTC  

How is South Korea a U.S. puppet state?

2017-08-07 18:04:17 UTC  

I said client state

2017-08-07 18:04:26 UTC  

Especially when South Korean firms are allowed to compete with American firms on the international market

2017-08-07 18:04:39 UTC  

South Korea economically and politically opposes the North

2017-08-07 18:05:02 UTC  

Of course they do, North Korea invaded them and is now threatening nuclear war

2017-08-07 18:05:05 UTC  

and thus can expect military and financial aid from the US, as they have done since the 50s

2017-08-07 18:05:28 UTC  

U.S. aid to South Korea is less than U.S. food aid to North Korea 🤦

2017-08-07 18:05:35 UTC  

nuclear war is unlikely between the two nations

2017-08-07 18:05:54 UTC  

Alongside this, the only reason North Korea has been preserved as an independent state is to act as a buffer between China and South Korea & Japan

2017-08-07 18:05:59 UTC  

provocation is met with intimidation

2017-08-07 18:06:26 UTC  

buffer state = not imperialist

2017-08-07 18:06:41 UTC  

North Korea is essentially a chinese puppet

2017-08-07 18:06:48 UTC  

Not only economically, but politically

2017-08-07 18:07:00 UTC  

cheap coal too, they ship it to their chinese imperialists

2017-08-07 18:07:21 UTC  

And also, either the U.S. is an imperialist country for the banana republics, or China preserving North Korea for their own interest isnt imperialist

2017-08-07 18:07:22 UTC  

pick one

2017-08-07 18:07:38 UTC  

Juche is a very one-nation ideology that opposes military intervention for the purposes of national self-realisation

2017-08-07 18:07:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/344179807124324352/20604275_498046057204343_2601459466959076318_n.png

2017-08-07 18:07:51 UTC  

How the fuck is South Korea the provocative state

2017-08-07 18:08:29 UTC  

holy fuck you're actually retarded

2017-08-07 18:08:57 UTC  

"Sanctions against North Korea are provocative!!!!!!! Even though these sanctions are in direct response to their Nuclear Testing!!!!"

2017-08-07 18:08:59 UTC  

🤦

2017-08-07 18:09:19 UTC  

what an amazing show of doublethink

2017-08-07 18:10:48 UTC  

keep in mind that China has consistently supported these sanctions <:pepekek:329662310971080704>

2017-08-07 18:10:59 UTC  

US plants bases around the east as purposes of provocation

2017-08-07 18:11:06 UTC  

but no

2017-08-07 18:11:09 UTC  

totally innocent

2017-08-07 18:11:10 UTC  

kek

2017-08-07 18:11:13 UTC  

oh my god

2017-08-07 18:11:32 UTC  

by the way, nice argument, that's not what we're talking about

2017-08-07 18:11:58 UTC  

provocation?

2017-08-07 18:12:00 UTC  

south korea provokes with their wealth and freedom

2017-08-07 18:12:09 UTC  

as in who threatened who first?

2017-08-07 18:12:11 UTC  

"Is North Korea innocent, and totally undeserving of sanctions?" "muh us imperialism"

2017-08-07 18:12:14 UTC  

nice argument

2017-08-07 18:12:20 UTC  

I didn't say North Korea was innocent

2017-08-07 18:12:32 UTC  

I said provocation was met with intimidation