Message from @Timo)))

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:27:57 UTC

so, German support for Austria during WWI, for example?

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:28:05 UTC

Sure

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:29:03 UTC

although that's a direct response to war close to their front

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:31:25 UTC

I guess because of cultural, geopolitical and constitutional alliances between Austria and Germany, which could exist if both countries collectivised their fuel allocation for example, whereas something like the Iraq War being motivated by oil would be considerably harder for a country with a socialist mode of production (wherein the ruling class cannot financially benefit from the war's enactment) to justify

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:32:28 UTC

Have some faith in Leninism my bois

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:33:09 UTC

But the allied forces profited from winning WWI greatly

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:33:16 UTC

As would Germany and Austria if they won

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:33:20 UTC

no question

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:33:21 UTC

they'd be richer

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:33:31 UTC

but that wasn't the primary incentive for fighting the war

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:33:34 UTC

an economic incentive!

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:34:05 UTC

What I'm arguing is that almost all military interventions have a positive economic incentive

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:34:16 UTC

incentive =/= consequence

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:34:24 UTC

Hard to distinguish one from a ''capitalist'' intervention

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:34:43 UTC

I could kill you for trying to kill me, and take your money, the money I could take wouldn't be my driving force behind killing you

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:34:55 UTC

it would be fear of destruction

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:34:59 UTC

Right, but the end result is the same

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:35:31 UTC

And as I already pointed out, the U.S was isolationist at the period in time they had the freest market

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:36:03 UTC

politics is a continuous process, there isn't an end result when you're talking about nations' motives for adopting certain command structures

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:37:21 UTC

we should hope that lessons from the past would inform the politics of the future, it's perhaps utopic but as a socialist perspective to reduce the intentions and reasons behind war we could eventually see a reduction of said wars

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:38:55 UTC

At the cost of totalitarianism in countries

Timo)))

2017-08-07 18:39:04 UTC

Anyway I'm done, too much time spend here

Deleted User

2017-08-07 18:56:03 UTC