Message from @Anglican

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2017-08-09 03:27:44 UTC  

Not nesseracarily suicide in of itself; they may have attempted before even transitioning.

2017-08-09 03:27:49 UTC  

So is attempted suicide.

2017-08-09 03:27:55 UTC  

*suicide

2017-08-09 03:28:09 UTC  

Because how many have killed themselves without transitioning at all?

2017-08-09 03:28:14 UTC  

Or attempted?

2017-08-09 03:28:40 UTC  

as in before they came out as transexual

2017-08-09 03:28:50 UTC  

YEs.

2017-08-09 03:28:51 UTC  

good point

2017-08-09 03:28:52 UTC  

*Yes

2017-08-09 03:29:26 UTC  

As well, I don't really believe that SRS is generally the requirement for most transsexuals.

2017-08-09 03:29:49 UTC  

They are searching to find comfront in their bodies, they are likely sexually inactive and don't wave their genitalia around.

2017-08-09 03:30:12 UTC  

It is for older transsexuals, really, who need a strong bed to lay their new idenity upon.

2017-08-09 03:30:19 UTC  

I really don't see how that surgery would solve anything

2017-08-09 03:30:30 UTC  

Hormones do way more.

2017-08-09 03:30:53 UTC  

HRT is prob the most important of the transition

2017-08-09 03:31:01 UTC  

plus new clothes, new name and prnouns.

2017-08-09 03:31:09 UTC  

see, and that could explain higher suicide rates as well

2017-08-09 03:31:36 UTC  

fucking with your endocrine system like that is not good

2017-08-09 03:32:00 UTC  

Neither is having a big burly masculine body that hurts you deep down.

2017-08-09 03:32:19 UTC  

There are some non-transitioning trannies who basically just cross dress

2017-08-09 03:32:22 UTC  

they have low T

2017-08-09 03:32:29 UTC  

or another biological condition

2017-08-09 03:32:37 UTC  

and they can just pass as a female by dressing

2017-08-09 03:32:41 UTC  

and are comfrontable as that

2017-08-09 03:32:59 UTC  

But a lot are in bodies which will go on to be TOO masuline for them to handle.

2017-08-09 03:33:07 UTC  

Sure, it can cause mental and physical issues.

2017-08-09 03:33:16 UTC  

But so does feeling alien to your own body.

2017-08-09 03:33:22 UTC  

Let alone alienation.

2017-08-09 03:34:10 UTC  

yeah, but that's psychological. mtf hormone drugs affect important biological processes

2017-08-09 03:34:33 UTC  

and I'd argue that's far more impactful

2017-08-09 03:34:41 UTC  

A healthy mind makes a healthy body, a healthy body makes a healthy mind.

2017-08-09 03:34:46 UTC  

right

2017-08-09 03:34:59 UTC  

You need both, and we are more so mental creatures in very large ways. Mind over matter.

2017-08-09 03:35:17 UTC  

If we are depressed, we will neglect ourselves or over eat.

2017-08-09 03:35:27 UTC  

so one of the things these drugs due is deplete the production of GABA, which is important for things like depression

2017-08-09 03:35:30 UTC  

If we are sick, we can work against it if we are still hopeful and strong of the mind.

2017-08-09 03:35:53 UTC  

Mhm, but you know what also causes depression?

2017-08-09 03:35:58 UTC  

Fucking dysphoria.

2017-08-09 03:37:52 UTC  

ay, there are biological and psychological facets to depression, and both are important

2017-08-09 03:38:09 UTC  

Well yeah.

2017-08-09 03:38:24 UTC  

...Basically, we both have arguements. No?