Message from @olev

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2017-09-02 00:03:29 UTC  

NATIONAL SYNDICALISM IS A FORM OF FASCISM

2017-09-02 00:04:11 UTC  

Marxism isn't atheist

2017-09-02 00:04:37 UTC  

Just marx saw religion as something that will fade away eventually

2017-09-02 00:04:52 UTC  

And yes, Syndicalism is a form of socialism,.

2017-09-02 00:05:04 UTC  

But it came before Marx and is a market economic system.

2017-09-02 00:05:19 UTC  

Marx didn't invent communism

2017-09-02 00:05:40 UTC  

He never outlined how a communist society would function

2017-09-02 00:05:58 UTC  

Hold on, I need to restart my computer, linux is being a nigger

2017-09-02 00:05:58 UTC  

Yet it is a combination of fascism and sydnicalism, and it is a form of socialism, woulden't that mean that the belief itself is a product of marxism?

2017-09-02 00:06:11 UTC  

🤔

2017-09-02 00:06:11 UTC  

@olev Marx hated religion.

2017-09-02 00:06:11 UTC  

No.

2017-09-02 00:06:20 UTC  

Marxism is not all forms of socialism.

2017-09-02 00:06:27 UTC  

Marx didn't invent socialism

2017-09-02 00:06:39 UTC  

Again

2017-09-02 00:06:54 UTC  

Marxism isn't even a political ideology

2017-09-02 00:07:02 UTC  

There is a reason why we specifically make a distinction between Marxian Socialists (Leninists and such) and non-Marxian Socialists (Syndicalits, Mutualists, Market Socialists, etc)

2017-09-02 00:08:13 UTC  

And even if Marxian thought lead to the evolution of Nationaist thought from his teachings, the good ones

2017-09-02 00:08:20 UTC  

The distinction shouldn't be Marx vs. Non-Marx

2017-09-02 00:08:23 UTC  

would that not be seen as renewing?

2017-09-02 00:08:26 UTC  

It should be market vs. non-market

2017-09-02 00:08:48 UTC  

All are based upon social ownership and oppose capitalism

2017-09-02 00:09:09 UTC  

But non-market socialism seeks to abolish money and the class system

2017-09-02 00:09:12 UTC  

It's like how Christianity went from an exclusive, Jewish religion to the saving light to the globe.

2017-09-02 00:09:31 UTC  

Is it not admirable to see these ideals be taken to form even better ones? To better the folk?

2017-09-02 00:09:40 UTC  

Or is the simple word socialist triggering for you/

2017-09-02 00:09:59 UTC  

@Anglican We should also make a distinction between fascism and syndicalism, considering that fascism has it's own economic beliefs that syndicalism would otherwise counteract.

2017-09-02 00:10:21 UTC  

Hold up

2017-09-02 00:10:29 UTC  

We'renot talking about Fascism, but instead fascism.

2017-09-02 00:10:39 UTC  

Italina Fascism and the fascist world view are distinct.

2017-09-02 00:10:59 UTC  

Yes, Italian Fascism was social corporatism.

2017-09-02 00:11:18 UTC  

But fascism within itself is a world view which ideologies, like Italian Fascism, spring from.

2017-09-02 00:12:37 UTC  

However, fascism was not the origin of national syndicalism, it was a merger between two political parties in belief that they should band together.

2017-09-02 00:12:53 UTC  

Yes, and I take from these ideals to form better ones.

2017-09-02 00:13:11 UTC  

guys stop arguing it's not nice to argue 😢

2017-09-02 00:13:13 UTC  

Does it matter what the history ws of it? When my ideology isn't just tht?

2017-09-02 00:13:16 UTC  

can't we all just be friends 😢

2017-09-02 00:13:36 UTC  

@Deleted User is that a quiz? I'm interested in critics of Hegel because I like his pattern of thought.

2017-09-02 00:13:45 UTC  

I can just call myself a fascistic syndicalist if you really want to quote Wikipedia at me too.

2017-09-02 00:14:08 UTC  

We probably should not quote wikipedia.

2017-09-02 00:14:27 UTC  

Considering that it is often biased and the sources can be shit.