Like I said, it's regular materialism just given divine significance.

the materialistic side of it is only from what our rational mind can see, which is this world

What is the other side?

there is more to that, there is more than what we perceive

i genuienly forgot the word which stands for "not-physical"

and i am still thinking

Supernatural?

alcohol is wearing off

no, xxx-physics

Haha, what is that? Also what are you drinking?

whiskey

XXX-Physics. Hot nerdy girls.

okay, there is physics and there is something that's the opposite

hahahahah

This is Deepak Choprah shit.

god i think one day i'll just forget how to talk at all

no it is really common

oh god

I woke up this morning thinking, 'what is all this fog in my head...it's going to get worse isn't it..."

i'm even coming up with extraterrestrial

but not the word

i have days like that

I am genuinely dim witted.

if the fog still stands after the breakfast and a coffee, i try to manipulate my mind

that's what a third party observer of this conversation would say, about both of us

"fucking retards lel"

Anyway, tell me more about pantheism. I don't quite understand. Do I have to read Spinoza?

For me the alternative to Absurdism was really clear and obvious. Now I am curious how you go to your conclusion.

spinoza's religious doctrines are more about a criticism on descartes' views, but can give you an insight

i suppose you're already familiar with hegelian absolute

Familiar, by no means a scholar.

hegel emphasises on the connection between *things*, which will be important from where you stand

the connection that initially arises due to things *existing*

Yep, good so far.

and i suppose all the far eastern teachings that will tell you to be a good person and kill your ego won't do any good? that you would rather skip all that shit?

i mean it as it's mostly the far asian philosophy, they actually talk a little about the truth about the matter

Good question. I think the 'spiritual life' is deficient. It can be psychological tool to end suffering in one person, yourself, and presumably try to reduce it in others. However, the whole task has not been very successful. The inward looking Tibet, for example, have been pretty BTFO by atheist Chinese. I am suspect of all mystical claims, it's a kind of reverse-materialism. Now I see this might be a false dichotomy.

Then again, meaning precedes all practical considerations, or at least all consideration are structured around meaningfulness. Following teachings depend on their theological proximity to what you consider to be God.

For me, it seems obvious that the highest meaning is transcendent, and both immanent.

Since an object and its meaning are not inherent.

from where do you structure your moral values? not that strictly as your moral 'codes' but what makes you say that "killing a person is bad"? kant, ten commandments, law?