Message from @Timo)))

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2017-09-18 09:13:30 UTC  

Just because something is idealistic doesn't mean it's wrong

2017-09-18 09:13:39 UTC  

It isn't an argument against the ideology

2017-09-18 09:13:58 UTC  

Right but he went from Nazism>Marxism>Anarchism>Egoism

2017-09-18 09:14:06 UTC  

You can see how that looks like to me, right?

2017-09-18 09:14:20 UTC  

In a span of a year at most too

2017-09-18 09:14:30 UTC  

Seems like desperation for thrills in ideologies

2017-09-18 09:14:39 UTC  

How the fuck do you go from nazism to marxism

2017-09-18 09:14:44 UTC  

Ask him

2017-09-18 09:44:13 UTC  

oof

2017-09-18 10:13:15 UTC  

Tim pays attention. But he doesn't seem to like me very much. I am not sure why.

2017-09-18 10:15:43 UTC  

@olev I found Fascism to have no end game. Which made me explore political theory, especially Marx, who actually made deep, coherent predictions.

2017-09-18 10:23:01 UTC  

Jumping from one ideology to the other so fast comes off as phony to me

2017-09-18 10:23:24 UTC  

Hell you even admitted it yourself, you hid in anarchism

2017-09-18 10:26:14 UTC  

Sometimes I lament not being able to accept an absolute idea and never question it.

2017-09-18 10:26:41 UTC  

That's not what I'm asking of people

2017-09-18 10:26:57 UTC  

Jumping from fascism to marxism to anarchism is pretty crazy

2017-09-18 10:27:00 UTC  

Also, economics is often too complicated for me.

2017-09-18 10:28:56 UTC  

To me crazy is not self critquing, never taking risks and defending the status quo. I have learned a lot in the time and exposed to lots of opposing ideas.

2017-09-18 10:29:43 UTC  

Self critiquing is not as good as letting other critique your thoughts

2017-09-18 10:29:43 UTC  

@Timo))) Marxism and anarchism are not that different

2017-09-18 10:29:55 UTC  

Which is why I hang out in this socialist discord

2017-09-18 10:30:13 UTC  

Or even white nationalist circles

2017-09-18 10:30:46 UTC  

I've got to go but I'll leave with the point I wanted to make about ideology

2017-09-18 10:31:17 UTC  

From what it looks like to me is that people try to make themselves more interesting by adopting more fringe ideologies, be it nazism or anarchism

2017-09-18 10:31:47 UTC  

I do not think they will actually like what they get when they get there, I think they adopt it to fill a hole in them that a religion can fill in quite well

2017-09-18 10:32:06 UTC  

All speculation, I could be very wrong but that's how I look at people who adopt these fringe ideologies

2017-09-18 10:33:25 UTC  

Hmmm. That is probably true, but that is human beings in general constructing identity. Not clear to do in this day and age.

2017-09-18 10:35:09 UTC  

I admit I have an inner restlessness which motivates me to seek out challenging ideas.

2017-09-18 10:36:55 UTC  

But I still do not understand your hostility. To me it seems like you use it to boost your self esteem by reducing others in your mind. So there you go, I can play armchair psychologist too.

2017-09-18 10:38:07 UTC  

Except I'm not very hostile to people on the fringes of ideology, with you I see the use of vague language to hide the fact that you hold none of your beliefs very close to heart

2017-09-18 10:38:50 UTC  

I mean you claimed freedom was your highest aim at one point if I recall correctly, then again you also played with the idea of authoritarianism

2017-09-18 10:38:58 UTC  

That doesn't make sense to me at all

2017-09-18 10:39:23 UTC  

It helps me understand the meaning by seeing both sides.

2017-09-18 10:39:38 UTC  

Anyway, I will let you go. Have a nice day.

2017-09-18 11:04:05 UTC  

so guys i have a question

2017-09-18 11:04:35 UTC  

When is the white genocide gonna happen?

2017-09-18 11:04:46 UTC  

Why did the gas chambers have wooden doors?

2017-09-18 11:04:59 UTC  

Why was hitler the bad man

2017-09-18 11:05:22 UTC  

just your everyday question

2017-09-18 11:06:11 UTC  

fucking bluepills