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earn over deserve

It starts with liberalism, then it moves to democratic socialism, then it moves to progressism.

that's true danger

the left definitely degenerated

i prefer classic liberals

In the next few decades, we will see a new progressive movement take form, possibly social rights or something like that.

the dems will probably rename themselves

to the social justice party

Lenin himself saw this take place, he himself hated democratic socialism, but now it is much more common than regular socialism today in places like north korea or cuba.

north korea?

democratic socialism?

cuba?

democratic socialism?

???

Maybe I misspoke.

i hope so

What I meant is that those places are the last few remaining places where actual socialism exists, democratic socialism has taken root much more than them on an international scale.

well

let me say this:

I feel as though none of you know what socialism is lol. And this is coming from someone who quite hasn't made up his mind

north korea and cuba

proved that socialism

was cancer

Democratic socialism can easily be classed as "not actual socialism" when compared to lenin, trotsky, and stalin, and marx's original beliefs, due to how different it is and how it has degenerated.

Frankly, I do not blame the socialists or communists for classing it as such.

democratic socialism is still heavy restriction

on capitalism

and state takes a major place

democratic socialism is still cancerous to me and the right

but nothing topples the many variances of communism

Though that is about it, civil liberties are increased majorly, former crimes are decriminalized, and the state is granted much more power.

And not to mention, unions and workers, do not gain that much more power over their jobs.

The thing is I believe socialism has a lot more to do with labor and capital relation rather than the ideas people have created of it somehow meaning everyone is equal or the state does everything

social equality

is a futile goal

pointless

and impossible

Equality is a false god.

why the fuck don't you focus on making your middle class wealthy

quit whining