no profit would come out of it

no profit?

do healthy people not produce profit?

an estimated 155 million people

under 65

were insured

@Deleted User They do, but you would have to hope that the costs and profits would even out in those terms.

healthcare in the US

has been costing less and less

since the 2000's

people are getting less and less insured

as a result

are you sure that's because of the free market

uh, yes

and not technical advances?

technical advances are a result of capitalism

lower prices are a result of

competition

@Deleted User Oh you said that "OG social democratic party was marxist"

The term had different meaning in the past. Like in the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party which turned into Bolsheviks.

@EALootcrates Not exactly, they are supplied and funded by capitalism, but are not the direct cause of advancements.

capitalism pushes for innovation

the crave for success and profit

the competition

And is that not to say that different systems would not push for innovation?

so cuba has the highest life expectancy in all of NA even though there were no job creators to innovate and all the doctors just lay around in bed all day and aren't paid anything

sectors that have already been explored into

are less profitable

okay, if cuba is such a great nation

```[8:20 PM] pepesfortrump: capitalism pushes for innovation
[8:20 PM] pepesfortrump: the crave for success and profit
[8:20 PM] pepesfortrump: the competition```

i'm going to pull out some stats

need I remind you that the country has been under a trade embargo for decades?

@Deleted User yeah you're correct, partially due to asymmetric information

@Deleted User In cuba, I would assume life expectancy would go up due to everybody having to provide for themselves and work hard for themselves in that country.

lol

the regime of cuba

that is the point of socialism

established a few dozen spots

with wifi available

the average salary in cuba

is 20 america dollars

per month