Message from @Big Ounce

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2017-09-21 08:58:31 UTC  

*God had to transform into something that could degrade and eventually be eliminated, namely into an array of quarks, protons, galaxies, and other physical forms.*

2017-09-21 08:58:47 UTC  

Otherwise this line of thinking leans too much towards the personalization of a god, so to say a Zeus or odin above us, which imo is a very narrow outlook

2017-09-21 08:59:06 UTC  

Wait

2017-09-21 08:59:13 UTC  

Now this is getting interesting

2017-09-21 08:59:38 UTC  

>arguing about something that doesn't exist

2017-09-21 09:00:32 UTC  

imma fap to that

2017-09-21 09:01:13 UTC  

@Cotton Read the blog post I linked if you're interested. I need to digest this.

2017-09-21 09:01:34 UTC  

Let's go one by one

2017-09-21 09:01:50 UTC  

dam

2017-09-21 09:01:59 UTC  

thomas da auschwitz engine going rogue

2017-09-21 09:02:24 UTC  

So god literally transformed into reality while ending his divine structure with all the omni- titles that come along with it

2017-09-21 09:02:38 UTC  

nope

2017-09-21 09:03:00 UTC  

bulls must be jealous of you, so much shit coming out of your mouth

2017-09-21 09:03:12 UTC  

Why don't you learn to spell philosophy first Thomas my dank babe

2017-09-21 09:03:20 UTC  

**tips fedora**

2017-09-21 09:03:28 UTC  

let me quote richard dawkins]

2017-09-21 09:03:31 UTC  

Pretty much.

2017-09-21 09:03:41 UTC  

"we are born ill and commanded to be well"

2017-09-21 09:03:58 UTC  

"god is like a divine north korea"

2017-09-21 09:04:19 UTC  

God was Absolute in the Deist sense, then transformed into something that would decay. The universe is God's corpse.

2017-09-21 09:04:48 UTC  

and my dick is the source of all dark matter in the universe

2017-09-21 09:04:57 UTC  

Does this process necessarily ends his sentience, do you think? @Deleted User

2017-09-21 09:04:59 UTC  

*God’s plan to suicide himself could not work, though, as long as He existed as a unified entity outside of space-time and matter. Seeking to nullify His oneness so that He could be delivered into nothingness, he shattered Himself—Big Bang-like—into the time-bound fragments of the universe, that is, all those objects and organisms that have been accumulating here and there for billions of years. In Mainländer’s philosophy, “God knew that he could change from a state of super-reality into non-being only through the development of a real world of multiformity.” Employing this strategy, He excluded Himself from being. “God is dead,” wrote Mainländer, “and His death was the life of the world.” Once the great individuation had been initiated, the momentum of its creator’s self-annihilation would continue until everything became exhausted by its own existence, which for human beings meant that the faster they learned that happiness was not as good as they thought it would be, the happier they would be to die out….*

2017-09-21 09:06:27 UTC  

@Cotton Not necessarily, just un-unified his sentience into the 'real world of multiformity'.

2017-09-21 09:06:34 UTC  

no creatonist i have met has put up a good argument

2017-09-21 09:06:49 UTC  

most just shift the burden of proof and claim they won

2017-09-21 09:07:02 UTC  

one of them literally fucking said

2017-09-21 09:07:13 UTC  

"if you can not prove the existence of aliens that means god exists"

2017-09-21 09:07:26 UTC  

You realize this is actually a pretty solid creation argument for a structured pantheistic belief? @Deleted User

2017-09-21 09:07:30 UTC  

🤔

2017-09-21 09:07:37 UTC  

Yes.

2017-09-21 09:08:11 UTC  

here's a "debate" i once had

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/360351493846466560/enzo_2.png

2017-09-21 09:08:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/360351494442057729/enzo_3.png

2017-09-21 09:08:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/360351495629176833/enzo.png

2017-09-21 09:08:23 UTC  

it starts from the third one

2017-09-21 09:08:30 UTC  

Highly pantheist.

2017-09-21 09:08:44 UTC  

🤔

2017-09-21 09:08:44 UTC  

the faggot was arguing with himself more than with me

2017-09-21 09:09:11 UTC  

More generally though, how does pantheism deal with the 'heat death' problem of the future end of the universe?

2017-09-21 09:09:32 UTC  

pantheism is bullshit

2017-09-21 09:09:55 UTC  

Our reality being due its time, though the observable universe is not the only thing that's within the chaos