Message from @Big Ounce

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2017-09-21 09:04:59 UTC  

*God’s plan to suicide himself could not work, though, as long as He existed as a unified entity outside of space-time and matter. Seeking to nullify His oneness so that He could be delivered into nothingness, he shattered Himself—Big Bang-like—into the time-bound fragments of the universe, that is, all those objects and organisms that have been accumulating here and there for billions of years. In Mainländer’s philosophy, “God knew that he could change from a state of super-reality into non-being only through the development of a real world of multiformity.” Employing this strategy, He excluded Himself from being. “God is dead,” wrote Mainländer, “and His death was the life of the world.” Once the great individuation had been initiated, the momentum of its creator’s self-annihilation would continue until everything became exhausted by its own existence, which for human beings meant that the faster they learned that happiness was not as good as they thought it would be, the happier they would be to die out….*

2017-09-21 09:06:27 UTC  

@Cotton Not necessarily, just un-unified his sentience into the 'real world of multiformity'.

2017-09-21 09:06:34 UTC  

no creatonist i have met has put up a good argument

2017-09-21 09:06:49 UTC  

most just shift the burden of proof and claim they won

2017-09-21 09:07:02 UTC  

one of them literally fucking said

2017-09-21 09:07:13 UTC  

"if you can not prove the existence of aliens that means god exists"

2017-09-21 09:07:26 UTC  

You realize this is actually a pretty solid creation argument for a structured pantheistic belief? @Deleted User

2017-09-21 09:07:30 UTC  

🤔

2017-09-21 09:07:37 UTC  

Yes.

2017-09-21 09:08:11 UTC  

here's a "debate" i once had

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/360351493846466560/enzo_2.png

2017-09-21 09:08:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/360351494442057729/enzo_3.png

2017-09-21 09:08:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/360351495629176833/enzo.png

2017-09-21 09:08:23 UTC  

it starts from the third one

2017-09-21 09:08:30 UTC  

Highly pantheist.

2017-09-21 09:08:44 UTC  

🤔

2017-09-21 09:08:44 UTC  

the faggot was arguing with himself more than with me

2017-09-21 09:09:11 UTC  

More generally though, how does pantheism deal with the 'heat death' problem of the future end of the universe?

2017-09-21 09:09:32 UTC  

pantheism is bullshit

2017-09-21 09:09:55 UTC  

Our reality being due its time, though the observable universe is not the only thing that's within the chaos

2017-09-21 09:10:05 UTC  

your head is so far up your ass that you are choking on it

2017-09-21 09:10:45 UTC  

nigga

2017-09-21 09:10:51 UTC  

you talk shit bout our great lord kek

2017-09-21 09:11:17 UTC  

So the chaos continues to exist and this is pretty much a process that repeats itself, there are many opinions on this tho, Nietzsche's eternal recurrence is a p popular and common one

2017-09-21 09:11:37 UTC  

bullshit*

2017-09-21 09:11:47 UTC  

a common and bullshit one*

2017-09-21 09:11:53 UTC  

pepe is a martyr

2017-09-21 09:12:07 UTC  

I don't know how it follows that the universe repeats itself. Where is this idea rooted?

2017-09-21 09:12:28 UTC  

god

2017-09-21 09:12:35 UTC  

the heat death of the universe could not come sooner

2017-09-21 09:12:49 UTC  

Just an interpretation, the continuation of the existence is a priori to this conclusion most of the time

2017-09-21 09:13:29 UTC  

You can always say it doesn't and chaos just lost a limb with our reality getting done for, or a cell within itself

2017-09-21 09:13:35 UTC  

the big bang is still a theory though

2017-09-21 09:14:10 UTC  

auschwitz seems more and more apealing every second i live

2017-09-21 09:15:03 UTC  

but

2017-09-21 09:15:05 UTC  

my friend

2017-09-21 09:15:13 UTC  

you are to big to fit in the showers

2017-09-21 09:15:26 UTC  

In this particular creation myth, the person God has been destroyed and that was his intention. I specific kind of Pantheism based on existential reasoning.

2017-09-21 09:15:33 UTC  

Thanks for the chat.

2017-09-21 09:16:14 UTC  

ho da ya feel bout the muslims immigrating into europe

2017-09-21 09:16:16 UTC  

@Deleted User another time, thanks for the good food for thought

2017-09-21 09:16:41 UTC  

oh