Message from @Deleted User

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2017-09-28 05:59:25 UTC  

it was thriving

2017-09-28 05:59:41 UTC  

until poor military decisions destroyed it

2017-09-28 05:59:42 UTC  

That's authoritarian not democratic.

2017-09-28 05:59:49 UTC  

In practice.

2017-09-28 05:59:55 UTC  

yes but it is for the community

2017-09-28 06:00:03 UTC  

Mind you, I think authoritarian is superior to democracy.

2017-09-28 06:00:29 UTC  

I agree

2017-09-28 06:00:31 UTC  

but

2017-09-28 06:00:43 UTC  

the people should elect the leader

2017-09-28 06:00:46 UTC  

But the people themselves do not have the ability to represent themselves on any higher level. Thus the need for enlightened authority.

2017-09-28 06:01:29 UTC  

the people should elect the leader out of practicality

2017-09-28 06:01:37 UTC  

because if not

2017-09-28 06:01:47 UTC  

(fucked up on edit)

2017-09-28 06:01:57 UTC  

violence?

2017-09-28 06:02:28 UTC  

Well, for me there is no leader.

2017-09-28 06:02:53 UTC  

But in this scenario any way is necessary.

2017-09-28 06:03:11 UTC  

It just so happens that democracy is the path of least resistance but not necessarily so.

2017-09-28 06:03:24 UTC  

but think about it.

2017-09-28 06:03:33 UTC  

if the people elect a leader

2017-09-28 06:03:39 UTC  

for a generation

2017-09-28 06:03:59 UTC  

and after that leaders death

2017-09-28 06:04:18 UTC  

the people could elect a new leader based on their issues

2017-09-28 06:04:38 UTC  

not the previous generations issues

2017-09-28 06:06:43 UTC  

According to what? After the supreme leader is in power, the whole game of how he got there changes. There is no going back. No 'backsies'.

2017-09-28 06:07:30 UTC  

he can't go back correct

2017-09-28 06:07:49 UTC  

that leader will serve the people for the rest of his life

2017-09-28 06:09:05 UTC  

This is why Anarchism is best. No short term ends. Just one person and their commitment against dominance.

2017-09-28 06:09:14 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:09:23 UTC  

but you must remember

2017-09-28 06:09:32 UTC  

the people can not defend themselves

2017-09-28 06:09:37 UTC  

not well atleast

2017-09-28 06:10:08 UTC  

even now one of the main purposes of government is to defend the people

2017-09-28 06:11:55 UTC  

Let me burst a bubble for you. What you have in your head about 'things' making people more powerful and being able to achieve things, are just imaginary power structures. What is really being done here but the re-arranging of duties in people's lives? This sacred thing you call 'government' is just made up of people pointed in a certain direction. We shouldn't limit ourselves to being controlled by this idea, but take it and realise it was the 'people' making this happen all along.

2017-09-28 06:12:46 UTC  

I understand the government is made by the people

2017-09-28 06:13:00 UTC  

it is made to defend and assist the people

2017-09-28 06:13:13 UTC  

Defence of what?

2017-09-28 06:13:32 UTC  

of the people inhabiting the land of the government

2017-09-28 06:13:54 UTC  

imagine

2017-09-28 06:14:09 UTC  

if there was an anarchist society

2017-09-28 06:14:13 UTC  

so

2017-09-28 06:14:17 UTC  

this means