Message from @Deleted User

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2017-09-28 06:18:17 UTC  

Military is just like government. The status quo in social relations.

2017-09-28 06:18:29 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:18:52 UTC  

so a military is effectively impossible in an anarchy

2017-09-28 06:19:44 UTC  

In the traditional sense, of course.

2017-09-28 06:20:11 UTC  

is there a non traditional sense?

2017-09-28 06:26:32 UTC  

Raiders.

2017-09-28 06:28:32 UTC  

Offence vs defence remember?

2017-09-28 06:28:39 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:28:52 UTC  

but raiders are unorganized

2017-09-28 06:28:52 UTC  

And I still want to ask you, defence of what? Private property.

2017-09-28 06:29:04 UTC  

no defence of lives

2017-09-28 06:29:16 UTC  

People are property of the ruling class.

2017-09-28 06:29:17 UTC  

and ability to support the people

2017-09-28 06:29:20 UTC  

Slavery.

2017-09-28 06:29:24 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:29:35 UTC  

but this is authoritarianism

2017-09-28 06:29:41 UTC  

no upper class

2017-09-28 06:29:51 UTC  

So in a sense government is the reaction against raiders to defend property of labour.

2017-09-28 06:29:59 UTC  

yes.

2017-09-28 06:30:16 UTC  

Well, I am of the eternal raider camp.

2017-09-28 06:30:30 UTC  

I think property is based on a fake idea.

2017-09-28 06:30:50 UTC  

why?

2017-09-28 06:30:56 UTC  

property is value

2017-09-28 06:31:03 UTC  

it is worth trade

2017-09-28 06:31:10 UTC  

that is what property is.

2017-09-28 06:31:14 UTC  

It is merely a declaration of ownership. All ownership is abstract idea. Made up. A bluff.

2017-09-28 06:31:27 UTC  

without property

2017-09-28 06:31:33 UTC  

there is no money

2017-09-28 06:31:41 UTC  

no money is no trade

2017-09-28 06:31:53 UTC  

without trade there is stagnation

2017-09-28 06:32:13 UTC  

with stagnation comes death.

2017-09-28 06:33:54 UTC  

Try to wake up from your dream. Money is just symbolic exchange. And exchange is just symbolic of cooperation. Humans are naturally cooperative. Get rid of his chains.

2017-09-28 06:34:30 UTC  

yes we may be co-operative

2017-09-28 06:34:40 UTC  

but we are also destructive

2017-09-28 06:34:45 UTC  

and greedy.

2017-09-28 06:35:26 UTC  

I think greedy comes after the invention of property. In raider culture, there is no sense of greed.

2017-09-28 06:35:37 UTC  

no

2017-09-28 06:35:39 UTC  

Only need.

2017-09-28 06:36:00 UTC  

raids come to steal the labour from the people

2017-09-28 06:36:06 UTC  

without working

2017-09-28 06:37:18 UTC  

money is important though