Message from @Seedle

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2017-10-02 00:11:00 UTC  

That's revisionism.

2017-10-02 00:11:04 UTC  

You have to have the support of your generals and -to an extent- the upper class if you want to stay a dictator

2017-10-02 00:11:29 UTC  

idk seeing footage of the sheer amount of people praising him doesnt seem to be revisionism

2017-10-02 00:11:32 UTC  

Hitler was definitely idolised

2017-10-02 00:11:49 UTC  

Idolized by the "german people"?

2017-10-02 00:11:50 UTC  

No.

2017-10-02 00:12:06 UTC  

Yes

2017-10-02 00:12:10 UTC  

He absolutely was

2017-10-02 00:12:23 UTC  

I've seen all the videos and pictures

2017-10-02 00:12:25 UTC  

99.7% of the whole Reich supported Hitler and his decision to annex Austria in a plebiscite

2017-10-02 00:12:27 UTC  

And personal recounts

2017-10-02 00:12:48 UTC  

And well, he was seen as superhuman by the masses

2017-10-02 00:12:54 UTC  

Exactly

2017-10-02 00:12:55 UTC  

they adored him

2017-10-02 00:13:00 UTC  

Over 12 million ETHNIC germans had been under some sort of criminal investigation or trial by the Hitlerian police state during his rule.

2017-10-02 00:13:00 UTC  

The leader

2017-10-02 00:13:03 UTC  

The fuhrer

2017-10-02 00:13:11 UTC  

Furthermore, he was quietly opposed by those who had been alive during WWI.

2017-10-02 00:13:21 UTC  

Didn't JFK love him

2017-10-02 00:13:27 UTC  

He totally did

2017-10-02 00:13:32 UTC  

>unironically buying into nazi propaganda

2017-10-02 00:13:40 UTC  

so did several other nationalists and patriots

2017-10-02 00:13:47 UTC  

You can't blame them, they wouldn't want to go to war after having experienced one already

2017-10-02 00:13:48 UTC  

Reminder he got this support due to anti-communism.

2017-10-02 00:13:55 UTC  

But that doesn't say anything about him as a leader

2017-10-02 00:13:57 UTC  

i mean u cant just use fallacies like that you have to attack the concept of national socialism itself

2017-10-02 00:14:03 UTC  

which is economically left wing is it not

2017-10-02 00:14:12 UTC  

"legend"
-JFK

2017-10-02 00:14:28 UTC  

There is no separation of the economic and political.

2017-10-02 00:14:39 UTC  

but there is a seperation of economic and cultural

2017-10-02 00:14:50 UTC  

National Socialism was envisaged as an expressly anti-socialist response

2017-10-02 00:15:03 UTC  

Because if that wasn't the case, German industrialists would have been fucked.

2017-10-02 00:15:56 UTC  

There was already one revolution in Germany, and there was about to be another if the KPD organized more power. Their natural instinct was to support Hitler and keynesian policies.

2017-10-02 00:16:48 UTC  

i dont get it

2017-10-02 00:16:55 UTC  

so the name just contradicts its own meaning by definition

2017-10-02 00:17:29 UTC  

whether or not hitler precisely used the concept of national socialism isnt really relevant but the actual meaning of it

2017-10-02 00:18:08 UTC  

Hitler had his own definition of socialism, that wasn't economic related at all

2017-10-02 00:18:21 UTC  

"National Socialism" is still capitalist, natsocs don't like to admit it

2017-10-02 00:18:27 UTC  

in what way