Message from @Kurt Sturm
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Because Jews started a war on German people.
Mmmmm proof?
The question was, did the holocaust happen. So far the denial is based on intentions 'but they didn't mean to' and comparisons 'but worse conditions existed'. This is a kind of deflection.
I have no much data on the topic. I've seen newspapers long time ago where Jewish bankers and industry people proclaimed discontent with German nationalist movement.
Okay, so since Jewish higher ups were disatisfied with the Nazi party this justified kidnapping all Jewish civilians and placing them in work camps?
Even if they didn't kill them
I feel this is a fun devil's advocate game though.
@Deleted User This is important. Holocaust was not intended. Other nations suffered greater loss. Thus why distinguish "holocaust"?
@Kurt Sturm No, at first they didn't put Jews in the camp. At first they Germans asked Jews to leave.
The importance of events depend on your perspective and personal connection.
The systematic eradication of 12 million Jews and others deemed "undesirables" did occur
Germany was their home
They were being forced from their home for no reason?
That's under the UN definition of genocide even without the killing
@Kurt Sturm They were asked to give back the industry.
They industries they had built up?
German industry
If someone came into your hand and demanded your paycheck would you give it to them?
home*
Hadn't you earned this income?
Let's say it's not even a random individual demanding it, it's a government official targeting you because of your racial identity
Also Jews started to fight with nationalist movement. Not only industry owners.
The nationalist movement was targeting them no?
Did the Jew's initiate a myth that Germans controlled the world? Or did the Nazis initiate a myth that the Jews controlled Germany?
The subjective importance of an event is different from whether the event of the 'holocaust' happened. It seems like you are just annoyed that it gets more attention than another event of suffering which you identify with, presumably in Russia.
@Kurt Sturm Germans were targeting their industry back which belonged to Jews.
The majority of Germans didn't support the Nazis so stop saying Germans
It was the Nazis
Jews been resisting making a lot of propaganda against German nationalist movement.
Also these industries didn't "belong" to the Jews, they just happened to be lead by them
So because Germans were not capable of creating competition the Jews deserve genocide
Nazi logic
German people have a right for their industry
Right now you are just playing a game of 'pass the blame', which was not really the question or change the history of the holocaust from happening.
Has been fun though. Thanks for playing.
I claim Germans been resisting. They were under attack.
That's not how Germany worked back then, being a nationality did not give you the right to own an industry
The best of the best rose to the top
That's capitalism
Or how it's portrayed
Another subject separate from the Holocaust