Message from @Sn0w ❄

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2017-10-28 03:04:56 UTC  

You want me to explain the entire story because you're unable to learn it for yourself? I have a rule regarding my religion. I never argue with a someone about it. I only talk if they come to me to discuss

2017-10-28 03:05:06 UTC  
2017-10-28 03:05:25 UTC  

@Sn0w ❄ Then come on, then, let's "discuss" it.

2017-10-28 03:05:26 UTC  

So wait you practice something you refuse to defend

2017-10-28 03:05:29 UTC  

Hmmmmmmmmmm

2017-10-28 03:05:39 UTC  

@Sn0w ❄ Can he work against a faithful one in such a union?

2017-10-28 03:05:58 UTC  

Sounds to me like hes betraying allah

2017-10-28 03:06:00 UTC  

Tsk tsk

2017-10-28 03:06:03 UTC  

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. The targets of violence are "those who disbelieve" - further defined in the next verse (13) as "defy and disobey Allah." Nothing is said about self-defense. In fact, the verses in sura 8 were narrated shortly after a battle provoked by Muhammad, who had been trying to attack a lightly-armed caravan to steal goods belonging to other people.

2017-10-28 03:06:13 UTC  

WE GET IT

2017-10-28 03:06:24 UTC  

What do you mean by that? @Firefly

2017-10-28 03:06:56 UTC  

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence at the time of Muhammad was to convert to Islam: prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars. The popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

[Note: The verse says to fight unbelievers "wherever you find them". Even if the context is a time of battle (which it was not) the reading appears to sanction attacks against those "unbelievers" who are not on the battlefield. In 2016, the Islamic State referred to this verse in urging the faithful to commit terror attacks: Allah did not only command the 'fighting' of disbelievers, as if to say He only wants us to conduct frontline operations against them. Rather, He has also ordered that they be slain wherever they may be – on or off the battlefield. source: https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/09/07/isis-magazine-to-jihadists-target-young-adults-engaged-in-sports-activities-in-the-park/

2017-10-28 03:06:56 UTC  

I'm actually not going against the religion. It says in the Quran, do not have heated arguments with people who disagree, so yeah

2017-10-28 03:07:16 UTC  

Kek

2017-10-28 03:07:19 UTC  

Ya just kill em

2017-10-28 03:07:20 UTC  

If there is a union of Muslim leader and Atheist. Can they work together against faithful people? Against Christian believers? Against Muslim? Against Jews?

2017-10-28 03:07:20 UTC  

Lmao

2017-10-28 03:07:24 UTC  

@Sn0w ❄ No, it says to mutilate and murder them instead.

2017-10-28 03:07:29 UTC  

^^^^^

2017-10-28 03:08:00 UTC  

Hell, I will give ISIS this credit.

2017-10-28 03:08:08 UTC  

@Firefly I guess? But Muslims don't have a problem with like, Christians. There were plenty of Chrstians living in the Middle East with no problem

2017-10-28 03:08:10 UTC  

They are doing what their holy book states.

2017-10-28 03:08:34 UTC  

@Sn0w ❄ Say that to those who were outrageously taxed, murdered, raped, and expelled.

2017-10-28 03:08:45 UTC  

@Sn0w ❄ But can they work against Christian? Can Muslim make a union with Atheist against Christian?

2017-10-28 03:09:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/373669499599060993/NO_NIGGERS.png

2017-10-28 03:09:26 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 An islamist would kill the athiest first.

2017-10-28 03:09:53 UTC  

I'm not talking about radicals, Danger.

2017-10-28 03:10:13 UTC  

You mean the pussies?

2017-10-28 03:10:24 UTC  

@Firefly Oh you mean join the atheists to fight against a Christian nation? I'm not sure. But muslims tend to be softer hearted towards Christians

2017-10-28 03:10:27 UTC  

Sure, by the quran they are already going to hell.

2017-10-28 03:10:46 UTC  

My mom is a Christian and she lives in the middle east for 30 years now, without a problem

2017-10-28 03:10:54 UTC  

I also have atheist friends there

2017-10-28 03:11:00 UTC  

Oh right I forgot, your mom was a coal burner.

2017-10-28 03:11:08 UTC  

But in war time, I'm not sure

2017-10-28 03:11:19 UTC  

@Deleted User my mom is Russian-German

2017-10-28 03:11:32 UTC  

@Sn0w ❄ Right, and your dad was an arab, meaning she was a coal burner.

2017-10-28 03:11:46 UTC  
2017-10-28 03:11:48 UTC  

Damn race traitor.

2017-10-28 03:11:55 UTC  

@Sn0w ❄ What about them?

2017-10-28 03:12:32 UTC  

I like how I ignored all your earlier stuff lol

2017-10-28 03:12:48 UTC  

Oh thanks mate, I expected it from you.