Message from @a toothbrush

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2017-11-06 12:58:50 UTC  

communism was tried

2017-11-06 12:58:54 UTC  

it didnt work

2017-11-06 12:58:58 UTC  

You don't know the first thing about marxism

2017-11-06 12:59:06 UTC  

You can't try communism

2017-11-06 12:59:20 UTC  

There is a transitional stage of socialism

2017-11-06 13:00:20 UTC  

"In Marxist thought, communist society or the communist system is the type of society and economic system postulated to emerge from technological advances in the productive forces, representing the ultimate goal of the political ideology of Communism. A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is classless and stateless, implying the end of the exploitation of labor."

2017-11-06 13:02:18 UTC  

labor exploitation is assumtion

2017-11-06 13:02:31 UTC  

being stateless is impossible

2017-11-06 13:02:38 UTC  

unless you want to lose everything

2017-11-06 13:02:48 UTC  

Okay but to claim you can simply establish communism and "try" it is retarded

2017-11-06 13:02:51 UTC  

same thing with classes

2017-11-06 13:02:55 UTC  

The USSR was not communist

2017-11-06 13:03:14 UTC  

It's meant to replace capitalism as a whole

2017-11-06 13:03:31 UTC  

No state doesn't mean there's no governance

2017-11-06 13:04:01 UTC  

ussr was communist

2017-11-06 13:04:50 UTC  

They were communist as in they had a revolution and a communist vanguard

2017-11-06 13:09:10 UTC  

yes and they have proved its economically unviable

2017-11-06 13:09:22 UTC  

they were psuedo-socialist

2017-11-06 13:09:23 UTC  

why would you work harder if every is payed the same

2017-11-06 13:09:25 UTC  

you wont

2017-11-06 13:09:28 UTC  

They didn't have a communist vanguard lol, since the party basically rebuilt capitalism and went revisionist

2017-11-06 13:09:29 UTC  

Because they lacked worker self-management

2017-11-06 13:09:34 UTC  

they were communist

2017-11-06 13:09:39 UTC  

@Deleted User everyone isn't paid the same lol

2017-11-06 13:09:40 UTC  

Altey you retard

2017-11-06 13:09:45 UTC  

I just fucking explained this

2017-11-06 13:09:51 UTC  

Read some Marxist Economics some time

2017-11-06 13:09:55 UTC  

learn how to read

2017-11-06 13:09:59 UTC  

>marxist

2017-11-06 13:10:03 UTC  

>economics

2017-11-06 13:10:09 UTC  

It acknowledges different people make different amounts of things

2017-11-06 13:10:10 UTC  

I never read anything, not gonna lie @a toothbrush

2017-11-06 13:10:20 UTC  

Reading isn't my thing

2017-11-06 13:10:28 UTC  

@Deleted User "I don't like it so reeeeeeee it's wrong, let's not asses it on its merits!"

2017-11-06 13:10:48 UTC  

What are it's merits?

2017-11-06 13:11:08 UTC  

>reee read what i told you cause i cant explain it myself

2017-11-06 13:11:19 UTC  

I just explained it though

2017-11-06 13:11:24 UTC  

I gave you a definition

2017-11-06 13:11:35 UTC  

@Deleted User it explains the idea of value, exploitation, and generally how capitalism functions and it's relationship to the workers

2017-11-06 13:11:43 UTC  

making nations bankrupt @Rhodesiansneverdie#0717

2017-11-06 13:11:43 UTC  

Communism arises from socialism naturally