Message from @olev

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2017-11-06 12:54:09 UTC  

How is it contradictory

2017-11-06 12:54:28 UTC  

refer back to actual commies

2017-11-06 12:54:29 UTC  

from ussr

2017-11-06 12:55:25 UTC  

not larpers like you

2017-11-06 12:55:26 UTC  

Why does the USSR make communism incompatible with religion?

2017-11-06 12:55:36 UTC  

What about the others?

2017-11-06 12:55:39 UTC  

Castro was religious

2017-11-06 12:55:46 UTC  

because they killed priests and destroyed churches?

2017-11-06 12:56:02 UTC  

ah sorry

2017-11-06 12:56:04 UTC  

not killed

2017-11-06 12:56:09 UTC  

"reeducated"

2017-11-06 12:56:11 UTC  

Yeah how does that now make anti-religion a fundamental aspect of communism?

2017-11-06 12:56:31 UTC  

nevermind castro wasn't religious

2017-11-06 12:56:37 UTC  

Regardless

2017-11-06 12:56:53 UTC  

Religious supression only existed in the USSR afaik, and it wasn't to the extent people claim

2017-11-06 12:57:21 UTC  

yea just like holodomor didnt happen

2017-11-06 12:58:45 UTC  

and no

2017-11-06 12:58:50 UTC  

communism was tried

2017-11-06 12:58:54 UTC  

it didnt work

2017-11-06 12:58:58 UTC  

You don't know the first thing about marxism

2017-11-06 12:59:06 UTC  

You can't try communism

2017-11-06 12:59:20 UTC  

There is a transitional stage of socialism

2017-11-06 13:00:20 UTC  

"In Marxist thought, communist society or the communist system is the type of society and economic system postulated to emerge from technological advances in the productive forces, representing the ultimate goal of the political ideology of Communism. A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is classless and stateless, implying the end of the exploitation of labor."

2017-11-06 13:02:18 UTC  

labor exploitation is assumtion

2017-11-06 13:02:31 UTC  

being stateless is impossible

2017-11-06 13:02:38 UTC  

unless you want to lose everything

2017-11-06 13:02:48 UTC  

Okay but to claim you can simply establish communism and "try" it is retarded

2017-11-06 13:02:51 UTC  

same thing with classes

2017-11-06 13:02:55 UTC  

The USSR was not communist

2017-11-06 13:03:14 UTC  

It's meant to replace capitalism as a whole

2017-11-06 13:03:31 UTC  

No state doesn't mean there's no governance

2017-11-06 13:04:01 UTC  

ussr was communist

2017-11-06 13:04:50 UTC  

They were communist as in they had a revolution and a communist vanguard

2017-11-06 13:09:10 UTC  

yes and they have proved its economically unviable

2017-11-06 13:09:22 UTC  

they were psuedo-socialist

2017-11-06 13:09:23 UTC  

why would you work harder if every is payed the same

2017-11-06 13:09:25 UTC  

you wont

2017-11-06 13:09:28 UTC  

They didn't have a communist vanguard lol, since the party basically rebuilt capitalism and went revisionist

2017-11-06 13:09:29 UTC  

Because they lacked worker self-management

2017-11-06 13:09:34 UTC  

they were communist

2017-11-06 13:09:39 UTC  

@Deleted User everyone isn't paid the same lol