Message from @Brickiest Brick

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2017-11-26 06:46:16 UTC  

Socialism in the marxist sense is lower stage communism

2017-11-26 06:46:20 UTC  
2017-11-26 06:46:21 UTC  

Also

2017-11-26 06:46:30 UTC  

Marxism, socialism, and communism aren't interchangable

2017-11-26 06:46:38 UTC  

i know

2017-11-26 06:46:44 UTC  

im aware of the different types

2017-11-26 06:46:52 UTC  

lets get back to the communism scenario

2017-11-26 06:47:15 UTC  

as the nationalization process continues, inflation of the currency coincides with it

2017-11-26 06:47:49 UTC  

this wouldn't be a problem because the communist doctrine states from each according to his ability to each according to his need

2017-11-26 06:48:48 UTC  

however in practice it is problematic because without competition to run the marketplace there is less incentive to produce essential resources

2017-11-26 06:49:36 UTC  

in a capitalist society competition leads to better quality and more accessability and coincides with the system of supply and demand

2017-11-26 06:50:07 UTC  

in communism it has been shown time and time again that this kind of nationalization produces shortages of the most basic resources

2017-11-26 06:50:26 UTC  

it just doesnt work without at least some capitalist elements

2017-11-26 06:50:45 UTC  

They did have basic resources

2017-11-26 06:50:58 UTC  

But a lack of consumer goods because they were embargoed

2017-11-26 06:51:13 UTC  

And in the case of the USSR, the planned economy was for the needs of the military

2017-11-26 06:51:19 UTC  

Which led to a lack in consumer goods

2017-11-26 06:51:42 UTC  

the government cannot provide for all the resources of a nation

2017-11-26 06:52:01 UTC  

that is why the USSR and other communist nations have shortages

2017-11-26 06:52:11 UTC  

they constantly have to borrow from other countries

2017-11-26 06:52:17 UTC  

that are capitalist, mind you

2017-11-26 06:52:30 UTC  

until their inevitable collapse

2017-11-26 06:52:42 UTC  

You mean trade?

2017-11-26 06:52:48 UTC  

Which happens with all nations?

2017-11-26 06:53:05 UTC  

a nation has to be at least self-sustaining

2017-11-26 06:53:21 UTC  

russia during the USSR had tons of resources

2017-11-26 06:53:39 UTC  

the nationalization of those resources led to poor management and a lack of work incentive

2017-11-26 06:53:50 UTC  

as a result the people starved

2017-11-26 06:53:51 UTC  

How did they lack work incentive

2017-11-26 06:54:09 UTC  

they were practically being forced to work on government operated farms

2017-11-26 06:54:21 UTC  

They were still paid

2017-11-26 06:54:49 UTC  

What do you mean forced

2017-11-26 06:54:55 UTC  

explain the bread lines and the high bread prices

2017-11-26 06:55:00 UTC  

1 loaf a day

2017-11-26 06:55:26 UTC  

In the 1930s the kulaks burned a fuckton of their crops

2017-11-26 06:55:33 UTC  

Which caused the shortages

2017-11-26 06:55:51 UTC  

And then there were some in the 1980s which is when there was market reforms

2017-11-26 06:56:19 UTC  

alright

2017-11-26 06:56:23 UTC  

explain cuba's situation

2017-11-26 06:56:32 UTC  

What is their situation

2017-11-26 06:56:49 UTC  

they're a communist nation