Message from @top cat

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2017-12-05 12:00:15 UTC  

government essentially works with big business to keep smaller businesses down

2017-12-05 12:00:27 UTC  

they do this through excessive regulation and taxation

2017-12-05 12:00:43 UTC  

as well as subsidies and nationalization

2017-12-05 12:01:04 UTC  

We can agree on a number of things which characterized the latest crisis, but I of course don't support the ABCT. I also don't subscribe to the conventional narrative that crises are merely departures from the usual tendency of the market economy toward equilibrium, automatically adjusting prices so that the supply of commodities corresponds to the demand for them. I believe such economic turbulence, the kind of which we've experience just recently, is a direct result of a propensity for crisis within capitalist development which has been there since the very beginning.

2017-12-05 12:01:05 UTC  

I guess we agree that collusion between the state and business is bad but I think I am better off with more regulation but I feel your would disagree

2017-12-05 12:01:49 UTC  

if it wasn't for regulation the boss would work everyone as long and hard as he wanted

2017-12-05 12:02:16 UTC  

he would do whatever makes a buck no matter what impact it made on the worker

2017-12-05 12:02:24 UTC  

well of course some regulation is required

2017-12-05 12:02:32 UTC  

we're talking about overregulation

2017-12-05 12:02:41 UTC  

which strangles small businesses and keeps more from forming

2017-12-05 12:02:49 UTC  

that's why we have regional monopolies

2017-12-05 12:02:56 UTC  

because no more businesses can start up

2017-12-05 12:03:01 UTC  

I think the line between over regulation and regulation is a matter of opinion

2017-12-05 12:03:10 UTC  

I believe crises results from a breakdown not in the systems capacity to produce enough wealth, but in its capacity to generate enough profit. It is an issue of surplus and not scarcity.

2017-12-05 12:03:34 UTC  

explain lemon

2017-12-05 12:03:44 UTC  

yes explain this

2017-12-05 12:03:48 UTC  

I am not sure if I understand you I am not the smartest man

2017-12-05 12:04:04 UTC  

I would be the first to admit

2017-12-05 12:09:46 UTC  

The overproduction of commodities and the overaccumulation of capital into fewer and fewer hands has led to numerous crises throughout history. I cannot explain in great depth due to time-constraints and the nature of the platform we are using to communicate, which certainly isn't conducive to exhausting theoretical discussions about technicalities relating to economic history, etc. But I'll obviously refer you to the historical record, as well as Marx's theory of capitalist crisis.

2017-12-05 12:09:56 UTC  

Oh, there's this too...

2017-12-05 12:10:30 UTC  

Oh no @Deleted User he’s back

2017-12-05 12:11:02 UTC  

i understand where you are coming from here

2017-12-05 12:11:14 UTC  

overproduction is certainly a problem

2017-12-05 12:11:16 UTC  

I think dr wolff was talking about this but I might be off base that there is a crisis of capitalism as wealth is concentrated the goods produced pile up as the market for those goods shrink, am I on the mark or talking out of my ass?

2017-12-05 12:11:26 UTC  

I can just feel the iq of lemon eminating out of my screen

2017-12-05 12:11:43 UTC  

top cat shush

2017-12-05 12:11:47 UTC  

Sorry

2017-12-05 12:12:02 UTC  

This was from another chat

2017-12-05 12:12:15 UTC  

well you do have a point there quis

2017-12-05 12:12:16 UTC  

howdy top cat I am new here I am a old man but babbie leftist coming here to learn from others

2017-12-05 12:12:22 UTC  

however that wouldn't really happen

2017-12-05 12:12:39 UTC  

supply and demand would take care of that

2017-12-05 12:12:50 UTC  

Dr. Richard D. Wolff has talked about it a number of times. His "Economic Update" videos and podcasts are very good.

2017-12-05 12:13:00 UTC  

the crisis of capitalism i do not believe is really a crisis

2017-12-05 12:13:01 UTC  

yeah I listen to them weekly

2017-12-05 12:13:17 UTC  

I love his stuff very easy to access and in plain language

2017-12-05 12:13:38 UTC  

doesn't scare normal folks away by draping himself in the hammer and sickle

2017-12-05 12:13:57 UTC  

Yeah, he's also quite witty and engaging.

2017-12-05 12:14:09 UTC  

there has been isolated incidents of course of capitalism failing like so, but overall supply and demand, competition and the invisible hand of the free market keeps itself stable

2017-12-05 12:14:29 UTC  

Lenin is also one of his influences, which is dope.