Message from @top cat
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They had the law of value, they did not achieve socialism
damn I had a lovely time talking with you dudes and would love to do so in the future I just got to hit the sack I am going to volunteer and the county food bank
I really don't care if you believe the USSR was State Capitalist or "Bureaucratic Collectivist". I've heard it all, Trot. Believe me. You really should learn more about Soviet history.
you guys are awesome, interesting, and really communicate well to a someone that is lacking a lot of info on the subject
As well as the history of Maoist China.
Literally "read a book" argument
*at
As expected with fucktard tankies, they need to talk in a pretentious and condescending tone
Trotskyism has literally contributed nothing to the international communist movement. There hasn't been a single insurrection or revolutionary uprising inspired by his ideas. Not one.
@quiscalus Thanks man, appreciate the convo. I'll talk to you later. Take care.
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@olev I really don't care if you state your opinions, or if you join an organization that splinters into a million other organizations, but when you start making unsubstantiated claims and pawn them off as factual information just because Alan Woods or Schachtman said so, that's when I take issue.
You mean that's when you sperg out and regurgitate bullshit
It's bullshit because you suffer from cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. You can't stand to entertain the idea that Lord Trotsky may have been wrong.
If you don’t know hander frieberg you don’t know politics
You haven't reasoned for how the USSR was socialist despite having the law of value
He wrote the best book on economic theory and political ruling
You literally just said
"go read a book"
Tankies like yourself are incapable of having any meaningful discussion because you're like a fucking cult
Go read what makes us politic by hander frieberg
Best classic novel on ancient aqueducts and political theory
By the way
Vietnamese Trotskyists assisted the august revolution
That is until they were killed like stalinists have historically done to dissenters
Hander frieberg
Author
First of all, economic value is a fundamental aspect of life, and Marx knew this. He expounded on different relationships and differentiated between different kinds of value, as well as the subjective and objective aspects of value.
He was particularly concerned with the objectification of value through trade in the market, where value, once objectified, or reified, essentially exercises dominion over human affairs.
He argued that humans were ruled over and dominated by the very products they produced.
Have you even read any hander frieberg
No, I don't know who that is.
Really?
He’s like the best author on political theory
And economics
Doubt it.. lol.
@olev I find it hilarious that you claimed we were cult-like when the converse is true. Lmfao
no u
It’s true
The colts are quite a quick horse