What are you

Take a wild fucking guess.

Communist

Tell me

People call those two different things now? Man....
Try again.

Stop being a girl and tell me

@black jack Hmm, a little desperate there? Try guessing what kind of ideology I am bound to, left or right.

I don’t want to guess

Damn, I guess the 30 minutes of thinking really didn't get you far.

Hey 31

Get it right

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrcrV4J6exbyTY4gcbvL_lA this man can explain more than anyone else why communisim sucks

i hardly believe being narcissistic is a good argument

.......

Now that anyone that’s not socialist is fascist

Let the fascists rule!!!

@Deleted User >ancap
Still an idiot regardless.

@black jack So you can't.

No I cant

watch a vid first moron

@Deleted User sup

Jk

@black jack Great, because I do not constrict myself to an artififcal scale online that determines what part of the system I most align to.

😏

Edgy

Hipster

i hope you die of stavation in that commie world

jk

love u no homo

oh shit the 1337 memes of the right

what ever will we do

The right can't meme.

@Deleted User half way through the state and capital, very interesting how even in the latter 19th century and in the early 20th people were distorting meaning of socialism and mangling marx

I am not saying I disagree but how would you verify the idea that the state is a means to keep classes in check especially the proles without capital and keep the capitalists in power or the theory of primitive communism?

Yeah, Lenin actually has a great quote on this.. He talks about how after a revolutionaries death, the state propagandists tend to make him or her look non-revolutionary so as to avoid attracting political radicals. They effectively "sanitize" their image.

also I never really properly dig into Marx and Engels work and never really read enough about the withering away of the state after clash is abolished post revolution and the state is now a dictatorship of the proles

@quiscalus Well, the state is an instrument used for the oppression of one class by another. Under Socialism, you would have what's known as a "Dictatorship of The Proletariat," in which the workers are in direct control of the means of production.

is this happening with a central government controlling the means of production or the workers within a factory now being the ones that run it or a possible mix of both?

Socialism still contains certain elements which were present under capitalism as it is merely a transitional stage of socioeconomic development. The withering away comes about once the productive forces have reached such a level so as to produce abundance and the masses have developed class-conciousness at which point the values of the old world will have been a distant memory and the conditions are ripe for communism.