@olev I don't like using the Soviet union/China as an example, as it's like using the US as an example on capitalism. But yeah, the party>People.

I don't know much about China

they talk about the succeses of capitalism in the west, but what about africa and asia?

Ultimately the USSR became a bureaucracy because the lack of productive forces and lack of development

Is Xi an undercover tankie

They could not meet the needs of everyone

Nah

I'm familiar to a point on socialism, but I cannot properly distinct between Socialism/Communism.

people had food etc

Okay, so from a marxist perspective @Deleted User

USSR dissolved becouse beroucracy wanted a pizza hut and shit

they sold themselves to the west

thats why you dont do revisionism kids

take lessons from the DPRK

What

/s

The main difference between the socialist mode of production and communism is distribution of economic output

It might be helpful to know

Hmm, okay.

Marx originally made no distinction between socialism and communism, he just referred to it as "lower stage" and "higher stage" communism

But later in the 20th century, the term socialism assumed the lower stage communism

yeah its all words anyway and that doesnt matter

Anyways, the socialist mode of production is a historical phase in which production is solely for use and there is no law of value

To each according to his contribution

via labor credit

A system based on merit.

If you believe that labor is merit, then yes

People are reciprocated based upon their labor time

is the LTV outdated tbh?

Honestly, I think that's a very fair way to do things. I assume the state runs the labor credit distribution?

Now, obviously there is a transitional stage between capitalism and socialism

yes

olev can you help me understand trots, if you hate beroucracy arent you basically anarchist?

@Deleted User I believe so

@Trve Metalist 🤔

are trots anti state?

Anyways, labor credit, or labor vouchers

They are not money as they do not circulate

@Trve Metalist No

or they just think a state is only not corrupt when other trots rule it

how do you stop the state to selling to revisionism and the west