Message from @olev

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2017-12-11 17:46:35 UTC  

If there's no set definition of socialism, how can hitler fall into a non-existent definition

2017-12-11 17:46:49 UTC  

Cause he called himself one

2017-12-11 17:46:54 UTC  

Ah okay

2017-12-11 17:47:00 UTC  

North Korea is a democracy then

2017-12-11 17:47:01 UTC  

Jesus I'm starting to believe that ancaps are worse than commies

2017-12-11 17:47:17 UTC  

I’m not ancap

2017-12-11 17:47:45 UTC  

If you guys would agree on what the heck socialism means then I would agree he’s not

2017-12-11 17:47:48 UTC  

But you don’t

2017-12-11 17:49:21 UTC  

Socialism is an economic system where production, allocation, and distribution are controlled by workers and production is solely for use value

2017-12-11 17:49:27 UTC  

To put it simply

2017-12-11 17:50:04 UTC  

Name examples

2017-12-11 17:51:04 UTC  

@olev Hey

2017-12-11 17:51:06 UTC  

what are you?

2017-12-11 17:52:04 UTC  

I mean there hasn't really been any instances of complete abscence of commodity production, but the closest examples would be 1936-1939 Catalonia

2017-12-11 17:52:18 UTC  

Maybe the Kibbutz community in Israel a long time ago

2017-12-11 17:52:30 UTC  

Exactly

2017-12-11 17:52:37 UTC  

@Deleted User Trotskyist

2017-12-11 17:52:41 UTC  

So you are one of the pure socialists

2017-12-11 17:52:48 UTC  

The definition socialists

2017-12-11 17:53:02 UTC  

But a lot of people call you communist

2017-12-11 17:53:44 UTC  

Well the end goal of higher stage communism isn't really a matter to focus on

2017-12-11 17:53:58 UTC  

Exactly so your a communist

2017-12-11 17:54:05 UTC  

Correct

2017-12-11 17:54:38 UTC  

Just the thing is, "communism" is a taboo word because of red scare propaganda

2017-12-11 17:54:44 UTC  

So a lot of people believe socialism is now meant as a economy with high social welfare programs

2017-12-11 17:54:53 UTC  

That's called social democracy

2017-12-11 17:55:06 UTC  

Ok but people call it socialism

2017-12-11 17:55:12 UTC  

Well they're wrong

2017-12-11 17:55:18 UTC  

and uneducated

2017-12-11 17:55:18 UTC  

@olev so no marxism?

2017-12-11 17:55:24 UTC  

I’ve met “socialists” that call it that

2017-12-11 17:55:30 UTC  

I am a marxist @Deleted User

2017-12-11 17:55:42 UTC  

@black jack Then they're probably not socialists

2017-12-11 17:55:59 UTC  

In fact there are socialists that say marx didn’t invent socialism

2017-12-11 17:56:03 UTC  

Or the definition

2017-12-11 17:56:11 UTC  

Marx didn't invent socialism

2017-12-11 17:56:17 UTC  

If that isn’t true then socialism doesn’t exist

2017-12-11 17:56:28 UTC  

Because that is where the definition comes from

2017-12-11 17:56:32 UTC  

There was communist thought even in ancient greece

2017-12-11 17:56:47 UTC  

Now we are back to many definitions

2017-12-11 17:57:16 UTC  

Where do you get your definition