Message from @olev
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If there's no set definition of socialism, how can hitler fall into a non-existent definition
Cause he called himself one
Ah okay
North Korea is a democracy then
Jesus I'm starting to believe that ancaps are worse than commies
I’m not ancap
If you guys would agree on what the heck socialism means then I would agree he’s not
But you don’t
Socialism is an economic system where production, allocation, and distribution are controlled by workers and production is solely for use value
To put it simply
Name examples
@olev Hey
what are you?
I mean there hasn't really been any instances of complete abscence of commodity production, but the closest examples would be 1936-1939 Catalonia
Maybe the Kibbutz community in Israel a long time ago
Exactly
@Deleted User Trotskyist
So you are one of the pure socialists
The definition socialists
But a lot of people call you communist
Exactly so your a communist
Correct
Just the thing is, "communism" is a taboo word because of red scare propaganda
So a lot of people believe socialism is now meant as a economy with high social welfare programs
That's called social democracy
Ok but people call it socialism
Well they're wrong
and uneducated
@olev so no marxism?
I’ve met “socialists” that call it that
I am a marxist @Deleted User
@black jack Then they're probably not socialists
In fact there are socialists that say marx didn’t invent socialism
Or the definition
Marx didn't invent socialism
If that isn’t true then socialism doesn’t exist
Because that is where the definition comes from
There was communist thought even in ancient greece
Now we are back to many definitions
Where do you get your definition