Yes but you have ideas about certain people being a certain way. You want to be apart of something...unwholesome.

My ideas stem from science. Experiment and reflection.

Accept we are not bigger than ourselves. No ambitions, no failures.

Big ideas are a waste.

All ideas are a waist from the objective point of view.

Not only big ones.

what are ya arguing about?

We are not arguing. We talk.

Ah

He thinks I'm more right wing than I'm.

But I'm not.

In the perspective of subjective/objective together. There is still a waste. This is like Trotsky, a waste.

Trotsky is the next anti-communist propaganda turn. It is useful as to give us a time to regroup and figure things out better than before. Now communist have to develop to bypass Trotsky. And this development is a good thing.

Not a waste.

The foundations of communism are causing it's secterian divide

Trotsky is like a knife. It cuts all dead.

From the movement.

Heh. Then why do we feel like we are left behind, that there is something left to do? Why is it so frustrating for us?

If the knife is so sharp.

There is nothing left to do from the objective perspective you exist and support your existence by the work of the consciousness.

It is a rule to obey.

Nothing important.

You must support yourself.

Basically you're saying captalism as evolved to the point where the notion of revolution is obselete because sustinance in the only priority?

Is made by matter and exist even without consciousness. All matter supports itself.

@Toxic You are forgetting the crisis which will come as strong as economy was. The stronger the economy the stronger the crisis. We are so far ahead after the great depression. Maybe not the next crisis but one after the next will bring communism.

A few cycles to do.

But next time we try again.

ok?

It's a sentiment that I hear a lot. "Wait for the revolution". But imo such an idea is dangerous because the point of crisis is to prevent the ways for them to be stopped. It's gotten to the point that surpressing class conciousness is a science.

We have to try.

The next upcomming crisises will either cause facism or communism

@Toxic suppression is a timely matter as everything else.

https://youtu.be/JKQwgpaLR6o

I agree

Debord really touches on this topic well

Maybe revolution will never happen. <:an:312037610547707905>

They always happen everywhere in live or dead matter.

Everywhere.