That's not to say that we can't know what's useful and what is not, but that there is nothing meaningful about it outside our consciousness of it. Despite the ways in which we think about them, these things exist nonetheless and cannot be reduced to our thoughts about them (materialism) - there's always something more about them that we can drag out.

```It is called "being Human" i strive for something bigger thenmyself unlike you and the other "us". You are nothing but a animal grassing on the fields being triggered by my attempts to create a better world in which you feel like you dont belong```

By *what* standards would it be better?

Communists don't give a shit about 'being Human'. We don't care about our bodies in the same religious way that you seem to. We see them as tools, not temples. Like all tools, our bodies can and must be improved so that we can realise an ever-greater field of goals that we could possible imagine and fulfil.

You say you're striving for something bigger than yourself, which is true, but the point of Communism is we make our own personal and conscious struggles match with every other struggle - not to say that we must all be the same, but that we must be conscious of as many struggles as we possible can and work towards their realisation.

Communism is the ultimate egoism: the world becomes consciously controlled by us, and the last vestige of unwilled processes must be those which we don't have the materials to bring into our control.

```offcourse facts dont matter to your and "us" feel feels. And you clearly lack foresight and the morality to change your and "us" actaions resulting in a more positive outcome then the dismal you and "us" are heading to atm```

No, Mr Shapiro, many facts *are* affected by our feelings, our practice and so on.

You tell me that facts don't matter to me and to the Communists whom I only mention as those mythical Communists (which says a fucking ton about the shambles of the Communist movement today), and yet I am precisely commenting on your facts simply being barriers which we must struggle to overcome!

Are you a determinist, Offender? Do you seriously think that you can derive the actions of anyone from a set of assumptions and premises about the world?

It's impossible to make such a judgement without looking at things retrospectively. The pace of the developments of concepts and our own abstractions - which inform our practice if thinking is itself not a form of practice - is unknown to us at this present moment. There is always a division between us and our self-representations.

How would I be able to capture the process of my own self-representation without accounting for that too - now a different subject who is looking back on the chain of their history?

Determinism kills itself, but a retrospective determinism does not (rather than 'what if's - good luck creating an alternate history timeline).

You are projecting the past and present onto the future, and in doing so, you neglect what can be done at present because you think it's wide-eyed to consider the possibility of overcoming the prevailing divisions. If that's your attitude, give up being a Communist if you really consider yourself to be aligned with the movement.

As it happens, *we can already provide roadmaps of what needs to be done* with regards to many things, from race wars to gendered relations.

```victory would be obtained by establising natural order. This existiance this twisted morality you hold, that is the unnatural thing here```

But your order must be imposed, i.e. it's fucking artificial.

It relates to consciously-made understandings of our world which are not in lockstep with the actuality of the world.

You would need to infinitely chisel away at the world in order to keep things consistent with your idea of Nature, even if that idea changes.

It's not just those annoying conscious actors getting in your way, but the natural world itself!

If something is unwilled, then it's not in your control and therefore doesn't conform to what you want. It might explode into your worst nightmare at any moment even if it is highly unlikely.

You might be able to say 'well, by the time I'm dead, it probably won't have happened', but can you be sure?

And what if someone else brings it about?

```implying i want capitalism, despite me talking about resource based trade and other socialistic and communistic systems```

Your socialism is a reactionary socialism: a retreat from full-on capitalism.

You want to protect certain things from capital - i.e. Nature. For you, the economy must not touch it so much, the present state of semiconsciously-performed affairs must avoid the Natural order.

Beyond this, though, you are absolutely fine about what capital dictates is good for reproducing the world as it is.

If choosing to be a certain way reduces one's chance of surviving or if they're mentally-ill, oh, pity them but they can die as far as you give a shit.

**Why is it that they're not surviving? Because it's not fucking profitable enough. That's the fucking truth.**

```You are dogmatic and bias maintaing a ideology of the sheep. you cant even think for yourself and think evrything should conform, This is facism
This world is filled with contradictictions because you have a cookie cutter mindset that conforms and is void of free thought```
This is cheap coming from you.

You're telling me that the world should conform to your fantasy and now I'm branded the fascist, the conformity-seeker.

I'm saying that we must violently expand the set of goals that we can accomplish, which *requires* free thought. By any fucking metric, the world has contradictions and things which don't make sense and shouldn't be a certain way.

It's up to us to make it that way.

```I offended you didnt i, your feels seem to be upset as you typed all that. I think offender is the perfect name for me```

Then you must be upset that I dared to ping you, maul your wall of text and expose you as an anti-Communist dog? If you're so sure that I'm upset, then why can't I throw the 'no u' excuse back?

You are not an alien invader of any sort. You don't offend me in the way that you think you are; if anything, *I am the fucking alien*.

I've literally come out of nowhere and I'm dealing with shit that you can't even think clearly about.

```Communist will stomp me? Well that just isnt real communism, that is just the jews putting a gun in your back telling you to charge in to german machinegun fire as they have little care for your needless existance. Fucking nigger stopmping on things you dont understand as this is your true nature, being violent and impulsive acting on dogmas```

No, we primarily aim to crush your gods. If you volunteer yourself up for the cause which ensures the salvation of your idols, then unfortunately you will have to go with them.

That's why it's *you* who isn't the 'real' Communist over here. It's not that we don't fucking understand what we're stomping on, it's that we're stomping on it because we know that it must not be worshipped and can only be upheld temporarily. We want to ensure that this wretched social landscape lives on borrowed time if at all.

You don't know what it means to actually be one; you hide behind a mask of utter crap which sometimes sounds Marxian (i.e. formalisations of Marxist theory which have been bastardised to the extent that one can fit it into an arbitrary us versus them story).