Message from @Garbage

Discord ID: 593148306155110411


2019-06-25 17:12:01 UTC  

I can 'produce on my own' (what the fuck does that even mean?), but my own actions are a drop in the ocean.

2019-06-25 17:12:19 UTC  

Do you think that I consider myself to be a Messiah who can magically whip up a revolution? Am I Lenin on steroids?

2019-06-25 17:13:31 UTC  

And I neither said nor implied that I completely grasp Communism. I have my own battles to fight regarding that; I will never be free of battles. My point is that you have infinitely less reasons to call yourself one than I do.

2019-06-25 17:19:06 UTC  

'who even has the time'? Okay, **who has the time to read Marx and Engels**?

2019-06-25 17:19:45 UTC  

You don't want to deal with my words? Fine, but you show no familiarity with the greats of the Communist tradition.

2019-06-25 17:42:24 UTC  

"you need the entirety of communism to stomp me"

2019-06-25 17:42:50 UTC  

you cleary dont produce, you are a unproductive worker just larping communism so others will carry your load

2019-06-25 17:43:06 UTC  

im not asking you to be a messiah you seem to spout a plethora of bullshit

2019-06-25 17:44:40 UTC  

" Okay, who has the time to read Marx and Engels?
You don't want to deal with my words? Fine, but you show no familiarity with the greats of the Communist tradition." you speak as if you are communism

2019-06-25 17:45:02 UTC  

Amd then "And I neither said nor implied that I completely grasp Communism. I have my own battles to fight regarding that; I will never be free of battles. My point is that you have infinitely less reasons to call yourself one than I do."

2019-06-25 17:45:05 UTC  

>pick one

2019-06-25 18:29:31 UTC  

```"you need the entirety of communism to stomp me"
```

2019-06-25 18:29:35 UTC  

Where did I say that?

2019-06-25 18:29:45 UTC  

```you cleary dont produce, you are a unproductive worker just larping communism so others will carry your load```

2019-06-25 18:30:33 UTC  

And Engels was a capitalist. Did that affect his theory in a definite manner?

2019-06-25 18:31:49 UTC  

You're not even arguing with what I'm saying at this point; you're just saying that I have a certain background and that I'm [x]-splaining using reasoning that I would 'of course' have.

2019-06-25 18:32:03 UTC  

***Do you know what that is? IDENTITY POLITICS.***

2019-06-25 18:32:21 UTC  

```>pick one```

2019-06-25 18:33:25 UTC  

Both! I am not *the ultimate* Communist. Such a person will never exist and will never even be conceived of in thought as a definite and concrete thing. All that I'm saying is that you don't have any more reasons to call yourself one than I do given your position - in fact, *you have far fewer*.

2019-06-25 18:34:52 UTC  

At closest, you're an ethnonationalist syndicalist.

2019-06-25 18:39:36 UTC  

I mean, just look at what you're fucking saying: "in communism whith no class you have other more productive workers carry your load"

2019-06-25 18:40:52 UTC  

Communism is a movement which seeks to abolish class. We seek a classless society. It's *you* who needs to pick one between:
1) Communism
2) Prolonged racial and 'collar' segregation

2019-06-25 18:45:10 UTC  

Anyway, to get back to the stomping point: **this was never about stomping on you; it's about stomping on your gods**.

2019-06-25 18:45:55 UTC  

You want to play the cheap psychoanalysis game with me regarding how my arguments are owed to my position in the current society? I can play a very similar game. Watch.

2019-06-25 18:46:48 UTC  

The fact that you insist on alleging that I'm talking about stomping on you rather than your gods might not be a misreading but rather a sign that you identify with your gods.

2019-06-25 18:47:33 UTC  

A large part of your identity is constructed around your *de facto* third-positionist struggle.

2019-06-25 18:49:07 UTC  

You cannot think outside that narrow and frankly stupid ideology.

2019-06-25 18:50:03 UTC  

The ways in which you regard my posts reek of the ways in which a stroppy teenager regards a subculture that they don't like.

2019-06-25 18:52:09 UTC  

You seem utterly incapable of taking anything that I'm saying seriously; you pass yourself off as not being interested. I notice this among a lot of the LARPing shits that I've seen in the last few months: when someone tries to engage with them on a serious, intellectual level, they suddenly say that they can't be serious and they laugh their heads off.

2019-06-25 18:53:00 UTC  

'What an autist this guy is! Get a load of him, he must have an IQ of 206 according to some online test!'

2019-06-25 18:53:43 UTC  

You can survive while passing yourself off as someone who isn't interested - hell, sometimes it can even save your arse in case some terrorists or another come along and use your politics against you.

2019-06-25 18:55:01 UTC  

But you are not in such a situation. You're in a place which was set aside for theoretical discourse.

2019-06-25 18:55:19 UTC  

And you're involving yourself in this discussion by even beginning to call yourself a Communist and all of that.

2019-06-25 18:55:43 UTC  

You could be trolling. You could be a bored teenager or a fed who's feeling like they want to experiment.

2019-06-25 18:58:20 UTC  

But the fact remains: you're still spewing bullshit in a place which is supposed to be for theoretical discussion, and even if you're trolling, you're still at least partially engaging me on intellectual terms, often reluctantly (which is why you either serve up meme arguments or ad-homs in such a half-arsed manner).

2019-06-25 18:58:27 UTC  

You're stuck, retard.

2019-06-25 19:00:40 UTC  

Why don't you go and join the 'Kekistanis', the /zenpol/ priests or even just say you're NAZBOL GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG

2019-06-25 19:00:56 UTC  

Why do you bother to sit here, being so half-arsed?

2019-06-25 19:01:41 UTC  

Even if you want to troll someone, why pick me?

2019-06-25 19:04:10 UTC  

There's plenty of shit to fuck around with on Discord. Plenty of idiots.

2019-06-25 19:04:37 UTC  

On /leftypol/ too you'll even find an intermittent schizoposter, though I haven't seen the poor sod for at least a week.