Message from @Deleted User

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2019-06-28 20:27:39 UTC  

No it doesnt, i wrote state instead of voluntairy institutes

2019-06-28 20:28:06 UTC  

Meaning you meant to write something else?

2019-06-28 20:28:10 UTC  

A government isnt voluntairy

2019-06-28 20:28:21 UTC  

If people agree to be governed, it is.

2019-06-28 20:28:28 UTC  

Yeah like i said, i wrote state instead of voluntairy institues

2019-06-28 20:28:42 UTC  

No because government has rules

2019-06-28 20:28:47 UTC  

that is anti anarcist

2019-06-28 20:29:21 UTC  

Why would it be? If everyone agrees to them, then there's no punishments necessary to keep them in check.

2019-06-28 20:29:51 UTC  

although several authors have defined them more specifically as distinct institutions based on non-hierarchical or free associations

2019-06-28 20:30:02 UTC  

>free associations

2019-06-28 20:30:19 UTC  

Yes, and why can't a government be a free association?

2019-06-28 20:30:37 UTC  

because it has rules and penalizes

2019-06-28 20:30:55 UTC  

But if everyone agrees to it, then they're freely-associating with it.

2019-06-28 20:31:00 UTC  

you cant say , i break the rules, step out to avoid the penalty

2019-06-28 20:31:14 UTC  

so it isnt free

2019-06-28 20:31:36 UTC  

Why can't I say that?

2019-06-28 20:31:46 UTC  

because of the government

2019-06-28 20:31:57 UTC  

The government could stop me? Using what?

2019-06-28 20:32:03 UTC  

force

2019-06-28 20:32:07 UTC  

What force?

2019-06-28 20:32:25 UTC  

police

2019-06-28 20:32:32 UTC  

And I can move.

2019-06-28 20:32:32 UTC  

if you have laws you have police

2019-06-28 20:32:41 UTC  

otherwise its silly to have laws

2019-06-28 20:32:58 UTC  

you cant move when you are detained

2019-06-28 20:33:31 UTC  

But I agreed to these rules, did I not?

2019-06-28 20:33:48 UTC  

Did you

2019-06-28 20:34:16 UTC  

and are you saying that a anarcist doesnt changes his or hers mind when it pleases teh anarachist

2019-06-28 20:34:29 UTC  

you think the anarcist will turn in to a confirmist ?

2019-06-28 20:34:32 UTC  

They can change their minds and associate with different people altogether.

2019-06-28 20:34:51 UTC  

That's what they want to say.

2019-06-28 20:35:03 UTC  

No because the government you argreed with is now prosecuting you because you broke the agreed upon rules

2019-06-28 20:35:28 UTC  

Is the coin dropping yet why you cant have governments when you are anarcist

2019-06-28 20:36:20 UTC  

Some anarchists would instead say 'well, no, they should just be driven out of that group instead, and they can try again with another one'.

2019-06-28 20:36:58 UTC  

So that would be dictatorship

2019-06-28 20:37:11 UTC  

No, because one would be able to associate with other people.

2019-06-28 20:37:17 UTC  

Wtf

2019-06-28 20:37:31 UTC  

I'm using what I think their arguments are.

2019-06-28 20:37:41 UTC  

if you get driven out by a anarchist government, you will jsut associate with others ?

2019-06-28 20:37:46 UTC  

Yes!

2019-06-28 20:37:57 UTC  

They'd say that finding alternatives should be easy.