Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-04 15:57:01 UTC  

you are only free when you conform

2019-07-04 15:57:07 UTC  

Your abstract, frozen freedom doesn't exist in the first place.

2019-07-04 15:57:21 UTC  

You are free when you conform to *reason*, to *yourself* as a self-conscious being.

2019-07-04 15:57:43 UTC  

```
verb (used with object), sub·mit·ted, sub·mit·ting.
to give over or yield to the power or authority of another (often used reflexively).
to subject to some kind of treatment or influence.
to present for the approval, consideration, or decision of another or others:
to submit a plan; to submit an application.
to state or urge with deference; suggest or propose (usually followed by a clause):
I submit that full proof should be required.
verb (used without object), sub·mit·ted, sub·mit·ting.
to yield oneself to the power or authority of another:
to submit to a conqueror.
to allow oneself to be subjected to some kind of treatment:
to submit to chemotherapy.
to defer to another's judgment, opinion, decision, etc.:
I submit to your superior judgment.
```

2019-07-04 15:58:13 UTC  

Yeah thast from the link that i just posted

2019-07-04 15:58:24 UTC  

```noun
the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint:
He won his freedom after a retrial.
exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
the power to determine action without restraint.
political or national independence.
personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery:
a slave who bought his freedom.
exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually followed by from):
freedom from fear.
the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc.
ease or facility of movement or action:
to enjoy the freedom of living in the country.
frankness of manner or speech.
general exemption or immunity:
freedom from taxation.
the absence of ceremony or reserve.
a liberty taken.
a particular immunity or privilege enjoyed, as by a city or corporation:
freedom to levy taxes.
civil liberty, as opposed to subjection to an arbitrary or despotic government.
the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship, membership, etc., in a community or the like.
the right to frequent, enjoy, or use at will:
to have the freedom of a friend's library.
Philosophy. the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination.Compare necessity(def 7).```

2019-07-04 15:58:25 UTC  

I know.

2019-07-04 15:58:47 UTC  

oke just again posting copy paste that have no point

2019-07-04 15:58:48 UTC  

But this dodges the point.

2019-07-04 15:58:56 UTC  

Autism

2019-07-04 15:58:59 UTC  

What point

2019-07-04 15:59:06 UTC  

could you include this in your assumtion

2019-07-04 15:59:22 UTC  

>more amnesia

2019-07-04 15:59:27 UTC  

Freedom is submission to the self.

2019-07-04 15:59:38 UTC  

It's self-determination.

2019-07-04 15:59:47 UTC  

And the weapon of the self is *reason*.

2019-07-04 15:59:50 UTC  

that is your abstract assumtion of the word bro

2019-07-04 15:59:57 UTC  

not mine nor the dictionaries

2019-07-04 16:00:43 UTC  

I know it's not in that dictionary, I don't expect it to be there. Like I said, Mr Nuance, it dodges the point.

2019-07-04 16:00:45 UTC  

>the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint

2019-07-04 16:00:48 UTC  

"
to give over or yield to the power or authority of another (often used reflexively)." This is not free

2019-07-04 16:00:53 UTC  

It requires a maintenance of fredom.

2019-07-04 16:00:56 UTC  

you are not free if you submit

2019-07-04 16:01:03 UTC  

What if that 'another' is oneself?

2019-07-04 16:01:27 UTC  

You should look into Lacan's notion of the split subject.

2019-07-04 16:01:46 UTC  

are you did ?

2019-07-04 16:02:05 UTC  

Nope. This relates to something I said earlier.

2019-07-04 16:02:12 UTC  

It would make sense

2019-07-04 16:02:14 UTC  

"Dissociative identity disorder, also known as multiple personality disorder, is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring personality states. There is often trouble remembering certain events, beyond what would be explained by ordinary forgetfulness"

2019-07-04 16:02:14 UTC  

When I try to describe myself, I always change.

2019-07-04 16:02:44 UTC  

*first the 'Jew' shit, now this*

2019-07-04 16:03:06 UTC  

Well im just asking as you are talking about 2 personalities in the literal sense

2019-07-04 16:03:11 UTC  

and you are forgotfull

2019-07-04 16:03:14 UTC  

""

2019-07-04 16:03:46 UTC  

As for the jew shit, you fit the desccribtion of herr hitler written in mein campf

2019-07-04 16:03:51 UTC  

It's not just '2 personalities'. It's a much more fundamental disconnect than that.

2019-07-04 16:04:12 UTC  

>muh jew

2019-07-04 16:04:14 UTC  

Again. American.

2019-07-04 16:04:19 UTC  

The point is that when anyone describes themselves and tries to understand themselves, they never quite capture themselves.

2019-07-04 16:04:47 UTC  

If I describe myself fully, I must describe myself as having described myself, and having described myself as having described myself and so on if I'm to provide an accurate description.