Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-04 16:10:47 UTC  

This self-reflexivity is everywhere in logic. Take the liar paradox, for example.

2019-07-04 16:10:53 UTC  

'This sentence is not true.'

2019-07-04 16:11:23 UTC  

It is a paradox, but the movement between not being true and being true with every iteration of thought still exists. It cannot be collapsed into a single moment, though.

2019-07-04 16:11:31 UTC  

In a single moment, the sentence is true or it is not.

2019-07-04 16:12:06 UTC  

Two movements are born: becoming true and becoming false.

2019-07-04 16:12:46 UTC  

Likewise, a subject cannot contain a complete understanding of themselves, since that understanding would explode to infinity.

2019-07-04 16:12:57 UTC  

***It means that subjects must be regarded as processes, forever capturing.***

2019-07-04 16:13:59 UTC  

I can therefore submit to something which relates to my idea of myself - an anonymised or at least pseudonymised entity which represents this idea.

2019-07-04 16:14:09 UTC  

This is what Lacan calls the big Other.

2019-07-04 16:14:14 UTC  

With a capital O.

2019-07-04 16:14:58 UTC  

In Communism, this Other is the thing that we must ruthlessly and consciously hammer into whatever shape is necessary.

2019-07-04 16:15:43 UTC  

The Other represents ideology, or more broadly the network of social relations as it faces every subjectivity.

2019-07-04 16:15:49 UTC  

Every person, every group of people.

2019-07-04 16:16:14 UTC  

Our ideas of ourselves are crafted in relation to our understandings of the world.

2019-07-04 16:16:18 UTC  

and you still think that communsim is doing what ever you fucking want

2019-07-04 16:16:32 UTC  

It's about getting there.

2019-07-04 16:16:39 UTC  

Nice recycled straw man.

2019-07-04 16:16:41 UTC  

you honestly sound like a dictator

2019-07-04 16:16:47 UTC  

A dictator of the self.

2019-07-04 16:17:01 UTC  

that you would force uupon every one else

2019-07-04 16:17:09 UTC  

Not if others can realise it too.

2019-07-04 16:17:15 UTC  

How do you think I realised this?

2019-07-04 16:17:22 UTC  

Through a gun being held to my head?

2019-07-04 16:17:25 UTC  

lol confirm or die ?

2019-07-04 16:17:54 UTC  

It sounds you have issues . like a lot of em

2019-07-04 16:18:08 UTC  

'conform or die' is inescapable as far as you're concerned.

2019-07-04 16:18:22 UTC  

Therefore it's meaningless.

2019-07-04 16:18:25 UTC  

well, you have to eat or you die

2019-07-04 16:18:29 UTC  

so yeah conform

2019-07-04 16:18:32 UTC  

or die

2019-07-04 16:18:40 UTC  

It matters what we conform to.

2019-07-04 16:18:56 UTC  

yoour communsim doesnt gives ppl the choice

2019-07-04 16:19:52 UTC  

There is no choice. Either fight for and with those who want to conform to less things and ruthlessly engineer the world in which we live to mutual ends, or be endlessly cucked and betrayed.

2019-07-04 16:20:26 UTC  

Accept the defeatism regarding defeatisms or live a fantasy made into a fleeting reality.

2019-07-04 16:21:01 UTC  

Really simple.

2019-07-04 16:21:06 UTC  

>to stop being cukcked we need to cuck ourself

2019-07-04 16:21:19 UTC  

But then it's not being cucked, *is it*?

2019-07-04 16:21:28 UTC  

it is

2019-07-04 16:22:47 UTC  

The fool who watches their world get beaten into shape in the name of some god by those who pretend to guarantee them some limited kind of livelihood which the fool thinks that they'll fit into...

2019-07-04 16:23:07 UTC  

...is similar to the person who wants to actively change the world to their ends, mutual ends?

2019-07-04 16:23:27 UTC  

Without any gods to serve?